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Ricky
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verlch
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 Posted - 09/29/2004 : 12:15:22 [Permalink]
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| hmmm that is interestingly complex, I'd just add another 5 billion years to evolution and call it good. Just as Darwin added several million years after he started off with just a million. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Ricky
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verlch
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Posted - 09/29/2004 : 13:32:10 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
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Just as Darwin added several million years after he started off with just a million.
Theories change with better data Verlch. This in no way makes them invalid or false.
Yeah because flesh and blood are so complex, thus adding billions of years to complete a theory must happen!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/29/2004 : 21:43:02 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
Yeah because flesh and blood are so complex, thus adding billions of years to complete a theory must happen!!!
No, a completely independent theory gives us 3.5 billion years or so. The theory of evolution does not drive the evidence which posits an ancient Earth and universe. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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verlch
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Posted - 10/02/2004 : 00:00:14 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
verlch wrote:quote:
Yeah because flesh and blood are so complex, thus adding billions of years to complete a theory must happen!!!
No, a completely independent theory gives us 3.5 billion years or so. The theory of evolution does not drive the evidence which posits an ancient Earth and universe.
Evolution adaptes to anything in its theory. Throws out things that contradict it. Evidence that are set against evolution are bundled up and thrown into the fire. Evolution, because there is so much against it, is by theory pure and anything that is set against it, is set aside and thrown in the trash. Anything that is set against it, as Dave W can attest, is a lie and discarded! Rubbish, there are 100 Trillion things evolution cannot give you, as men, an answer on. Get real. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/02/2004 : 00:17:32 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
Evolution adaptes to anything in its theory. Throws out things that contradict it. Evidence that are set against evolution are bundled up and thrown into the fire.
Not at all. A good scientific theory (and evolution is just that) must account for all of the evidence. There is no evidence which contradicts evolution.quote:
Evolution, because there is so much against it...
Name one thing. Name a single thing which is truly against evolution. You haven't done so yet, among all these posts of yours, so please don't repeat yourself. All you've done is present a bunch of misunderstandings of evolution (for example, that some fish evolved directly into an elephant), along with outright falsehoods (for example, that bats are blind).quote:
...is by theory pure and anything that is set against it, is set aside and thrown in the trash. Anything that is set against it, as Dave W can attest, is a lie and discarded!
Well, when they are lies - like bats being blind - should they not be discarded? "Bats are blind" is not evidence against evolution, because it simply isn't true.quote:
Rubbish, there are 100 Trillion things evolution cannot give you, as men, an answer on. Get real.
No, verlch, you get real. Start asking the serious questions which "evolution can't answer." You haven't done so yet. You say that there are 100 trillion unanswered questions, but you've yet to ask even one of them. Just saying that something is true doesn't make it true. Get real, and quit farting around. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/02/2004 : 03:26:47 [Permalink]
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"Balls!" shouted the queen, "If I had 'em, I'd be a snooker table!"quote:
Evolution adaptes to anything in its theory. Throws out things that contradict it. Evidence that are set against evolution are bundled up and thrown into the fire. Evolution, because there is so much against it, is by theory pure and anything that is set against it, is set aside and thrown in the trash. Anything that is set against it, as Dave W can attest, is a lie and discarded! Rubbish, there are 100 Trillion things evolution cannot give you, as men, an answer on. Get real.
<sigh> Of course, you can support this statment with evidences and examples, yes?
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