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furshur
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 Posted - 01/07/2005 : 09:18:09 [Permalink]
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I like the way that Verlich has a link to each page. I would have been way to confusing to try to look at the following pages from the original link.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/07/2005 : 14:11:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by verlch
Jesus Christ <snip> was the first born in the universe.
Not according to the bible. Genesis crearly infers that Cain was the first human born in the universe.
Before Jesus was the Son of Man he was the only begotten of God.
For God so loved the world
that he sent his only begotten
son, that whosoever beleiveth in Him
shall not parish, but have eternal
life.
Yeah yeah... the classic John 3:16. Old news. So old in fact, it's getting boring.
If God had a son before Adam was created, THEN WHY THE HELL DIDN*T MOSES WRITE SO IN GENESIS?
This is just another proof that the Bible is hogwash. Made up. Improved upon by later writers, who thought that it would be nice with some new, fresh, characteristics of their image of their god.
The new testament is God rev. 1.1A
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Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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verlch
SFN Regular
781 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 04:37:48 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Jesus Christ <snip> was the first born in the universe.
Not according to the bible. Genesis crearly infers that Cain was the first human born in the universe.
Before Jesus was the Son of Man he was the only begotten of God.
For God so loved the world
that he sent his only begotten
son, that whosoever beleiveth in Him
shall not parish, but have eternal
life.
Yeah yeah... the classic John 3:16. Old news. So old in fact, it's getting boring.
If God had a son before Adam was created, THEN WHY THE HELL DIDN*T MOSES WRITE SO IN GENESIS?
This is just another proof that the Bible is hogwash. Made up. Improved upon by later writers, who thought that it would be nice with some new, fresh, characteristics of their image of their god.
The new testament is God rev. 1.1A
Jesus was created a Son of God as an Angel in heaven, before God the Father sent Him into this world to die as a man for the sins of the world, so that by faith we might also be with the Father! That is why His name is called Anceint of Days. Christ also has a name nobody knows except Himself! King of Kings and Lord of Lords He calls Himself. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/08/2005 : 04:38:51 [Permalink]
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Verlch, if David Koresh is anything of an inspiration for you, you're in worse shape than I thought.
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No way that Guy was a little too wild for my tastes. But not the monster they made him out to be! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 06:20:06 [Permalink]
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For an interesting history of the Branch Davidians, go here.
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Jesus was created a Son of God as an Angel in heaven, before God the Father sent Him into this world to die as a man for the sins of the world, so that by faith we might also be with the Father! That is why His name is called Anceint of Days. Christ also has a name nobody knows except Himself! King of Kings and Lord of Lords He calls Himself.
Huh?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 17:04:56 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Jesus was created a Son of God as an Angel in heaven, before God the Father sent Him into this world to die as a man for the sins of the world, so that by faith we might also be with the Father! That is why His name is called Anceint of Days. Christ also has a name nobody knows except Himself! King of Kings and Lord of Lords He calls Himself.
I don't believe you! Show us chapter and verse, and I will concede that Jesus was the first born son in the universe. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 17:30:39 [Permalink]
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No way that Guy was a little too wild for my tastes. But not the monster they made him out to be!
Now boys I cannot believe you guys would even dare to compare me with Verlch. How can my cute woo woo subjects be any comparison to this crazy remark...
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 18:40:18 [Permalink]
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Now boys I cannot believe you guys would even dare to compare me with Verlch. How can my cute woo woo subjects be any comparison to this crazy remark...
Because you both demonstrate, repeatedly, that you do not understand critical thinking and you both refuse to apply logic. You both refuse to even admit that evidence (in extreme abundance) exists that directly contradicts your statements. ect, ect, ect....
You are, in this regard, exactly like verlch.
As I said before, the difference between you lies in the specifics of what you believe. verlch is a christian religious woo-woo, you are a new-age/ghost woo-woo.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 21:21:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Christ also has a name nobody knows except Himself! King of Kings and Lord of Lords He calls Himself.
How do you know what He calls Himself? You just said that nobody knows but Him?
Are you claiming to be Jesus, verlch? |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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verlch
SFN Regular
781 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2005 : 04:24:57 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
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No way that Guy was a little too wild for my tastes. But not the monster they made him out to be!
Now boys I cannot believe you guys would even dare to compare me with Verlch. How can my cute woo woo subjects be any comparison to this crazy remark...
Oh so you side with the ultra entrenched macho shockandawe liberal camp do yeah on this subject? They killed the man! They manufactured reasons to be there so they could disarm him and all costs. Leave the man alone until he pulls something. The only reason he had guns was to protect his property from the other group that wanted to kill him! What is wrong with wanting to protect house and home from anybody. I think the least of his worries was the US government! You guys are beign liberal nazis! Would you like somebody to use the bathroom on your bed? I suppose you would enjoy it and invite the rest of the city in to do the same! Anybody uses the bathroom on my bed will meet my fist! And the Iron of my muscle clad upper body!!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2005 : 06:00:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
quote:
Originally posted by Storm
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No way that Guy was a little too wild for my tastes. But not the monster they made him out to be!
Now boys I cannot believe you guys would even dare to compare me with Verlch. How can my cute woo woo subjects be any comparison to this crazy remark...
Oh so you side with the ultra entrenched macho shockandawe liberal camp do yeah on this subject? They killed the man! They manufactured reasons to be there so they could disarm him and all costs. Leave the man alone until he pulls something. The only reason he had guns was to protect his property from the other group that wanted to kill him! What is wrong with wanting to protect house and home from anybody. I think the least of his worries was the US government! You guys are beign liberal nazis! Would you like somebody to use the bathroom on your bed? I suppose you would enjoy it and invite the rest of the city in to do the same! Anybody uses the bathroom on my bed will meet my fist! And the Iron of my muscle clad upper body!!!!
What the hell is all this about? Have I missed something?
(Military expert pistol, master outdoor pistol, NRA, and International Class long range pistol, IHMSA. Also a pretty fair hand with a long gun.) |
"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/09/2005 : 08:10:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Storm
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No way that Guy was a little too wild for my tastes. But not the monster they made him out to be!
Now boys I cannot believe you guys would even dare to compare me with Verlch. How can my cute woo woo subjects be any comparison to this crazy remark...
David Koresh, everybody thinks he has no business sticking up for himself. All he was doing by stockpiling weapons was to protect himself from the main Branch Davidians, or what ever they were called. He started his own group, for some reason the government didn't like him and went on his property, made him look week and then killed him. You don't go on their property no ATF agents would have been killed. Therefore no need to burn down the compound with woman and children in it.
Oh so you side with the ultra entrenched macho shockandawe liberal camp do yeah on this subject? They killed the man! They manufactured reasons to be there so they could disarm him and all costs. Leave the man alone until he pulls something. The only reason he had guns was to protect his property from the other group that wanted to kill him! What is wrong with wanting to protect house and home from anybody. I think the least of his worries was the US government! You guys are beign liberal nazis! Would you like somebody to use the bathroom on your bed? I suppose you would enjoy it and invite the rest of the city in to do the same! Anybody uses the bathroom on my bed will meet my fist! And the Iron of my muscle clad upper body!!!!
What the hell is all this about? Have I missed something?
(Military expert pistol, master outdoor pistol, NRA, and International Class long range pistol, IHMSA. Also a pretty fair hand with a long gun.)
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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