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Ricky
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Posted - 11/22/2004 :  10:53:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
What's sad is having almost entire generations forgetting their beer roots. People go from chugging 50-cent-a-can beers in high school and college to being too damn good for them.


Its around 30 cents per can for us. That's right, Milwaukee's Best is 30 cents a can. And thats not even in bulk...

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2004 :  14:19:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Ricky wrote:

Its around 30 cents per can for us. That's right, Milwaukee's Best is 30 cents a can. And thats not even in bulk...


According to this site 13 cents of that is taxes. Of course that depends on what state you're in.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/22/2004 :  20:45:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
15 years ago, Ricky, I worked with a guy fresh out of Virginia Tech who said that he and his buddies there drank M*A*S*H 4077 beer (camoflage can with yellow stenciled logo), which ran them $2.47 a case. That was a hair over a dime a beer.

Ugh, I'm too lazy right now to go find an inflation calculator...

Anyway, you're probably right, R.Wreck, in that I just need to tune out the beer tech talk, but the problem is I happen to like my cheap American brand of choice (Rolling Rock), so perhaps I take the whole thing too personally.

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R.Wreck
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Posted - 11/22/2004 :  21:08:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
DaveW wrote:

Anyway, you're probably right, R.Wreck, in that I just need to tune out the beer tech talk, but the problem is I happen to like my cheap American brand of choice (Rolling Rock), so perhaps I take the whole thing too personally.



Believe it or not, there are those here in the midwest that consider Rolling Rock to be somewhat exotic. Well, anyway, to each his own. The important thing is that you're drinking something!

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 11/22/2004 :  21:19:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck
Believe it or not, there are those here in the midwest that consider Rolling Rock to be somewhat exotic. Well, anyway, to each his own. The important thing is that you're drinking something!


I was thinking the same thing! I consider Rolling Rock to be "high octane," not the regular unleaded stuff I subsisted on in college. Milwaukee's Best is a cheap beer, as is Natural Light and PBR. My favorite cheap brand was Shaffer's. My dad's a Genesee Cream Ale afficionado.

Once I started working and had some money in my pocket, I upgraded to Miller Light. Anything swankier and I feel out of my element, although I confess to splurging on the occasional black and tan. There is also a local brewery that has some fine cheap ale. $6 gets you a "growler," or really big ass bottle of either the civil war-themed "Blue and Gray" pilsner or "Fred Red," an amber bock.

Mmmm, Growler...I'm sorry, what was my point again?


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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satans_mom
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Posted - 11/22/2004 :  21:41:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send satans_mom an AOL message  Send satans_mom a Yahoo! Message Send satans_mom a Private Message
I have to say, that I am a wino at heart. I have always preferred wine over beer, and never have I been one for liquor. I'd like to say that some of the best beer I've had was Oktoberfest. Mmm, mmm, mmm....

Back to the topic, I think air conditioners and heaters are the best inventions of all time. Man's triumph over nature continues to progress at staggering levels.

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filthy
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  02:37:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it a triumph just yet......

How 'bout glass, in all of it's various forms; from picture windows to the Hubbel Telescope, to microscopes, to alcoholic beverage containers.

A cheap beer I used to like but haven't seen in decades was Hamm's. I'm not sure it's still being made.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  07:25:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Believe it or not, there are those here in the midwest that consider Rolling Rock to be somewhat exotic.
I believe it, since I'm pretty sure that Rolling Rock has a limited distribution around Pennsylvania (I'm lucky I can get it in VA). So far as I know, it's no more expensive than Miller or Bud.
quote:
Originally posted by H.

I was thinking the same thing! I consider Rolling Rock to be "high octane," not the regular unleaded stuff I subsisted on in college. Milwaukee's Best is a cheap beer, as is Natural Light and PBR. My favorite cheap brand was Shaffer's. My dad's a Genesee Cream Ale afficionado.
And yet, if I'm not mistaken, all of those brands - Rolling Rock included - have the same alcohol content.
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Well, anyway, to each his own. The important thing is that you're drinking something!


Many years ago, I and some friends went to a bar in D.C. which had an entire beer menu, with some 300+ different brands. With all this weird, foreign stuff to choose from, my girlfriend orders a Carling Black Label. "Where the heck did you find that?" I asked, and she pointed to the back page of the menu, which was titled "American Canned Beers*". And at the bottom of the page, "* Management will not be held responsible for the quality of these beers." I was pretty sure that the waitress had to blow the dust off the top of the can.

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  14:53:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
Schaefer, Hamms, Carling!! Quick, somebody get me a chocolate stout!

(glug glug)

Urrrrrrrp!!!


That's better.

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satans_mom
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  14:59:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send satans_mom an AOL message  Send satans_mom a Yahoo! Message Send satans_mom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Schaefer, Hamms, Carling!! Quick, somebody get me a chocolate stout!

(glug glug)

Urrrrrrrp!!!


That's better.



Chocolate stout, eh? Not unheard of, just like coffee brew isn't unheard of either, but I'd be timid to try it. I wouldn't turn it down, but I would be timid. Do the ingredients contain milk? Wouldn't that somehow make one sick easier?

I like Hornsby's Hard Apple Cider.

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R.Wreck
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  15:35:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
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satans-mom wrote:

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Schaefer, Hamms, Carling!! Quick, somebody get me a chocolate stout!

(glug glug)

Urrrrrrrp!!!


That's better.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Chocolate stout, eh? Not unheard of, just like coffee brew isn't unheard of either, but I'd be timid to try it. I wouldn't turn it down, but I would be timid. Do the ingredients contain milk? Wouldn't that somehow make one sick easier?


No milk, but real chocolate.

(Dave, avert your eyes)

quote:
Pale ale malt, crystal malt, roasted barley, chocolate malt, special blend of sugars, Fuggles and Goldings hops, real dark chocolate and chocolate essence. Melted chocolate bars are added to the boil and the essence is added after filtration.



It is a rich brew. Closer to an iced coffee than to an American mass produced lager like Bud etc. And hard to pound down in mass quantities. But hey, you only live once (as far as I know, anyway) and I believe in trying new tastes, as long as they don't gross you out just thinking about it (chocolate covered cockroaches anyone?).

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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R.Wreck
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1191 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2004 :  15:39:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
We now take a quick break from "Beer Talk" to go back to the original topic:

Rain-X.

It takes a little elbow grease (its essentially a clear polish for your windshield) to apply, but water just flies off! Cool stuff.

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Ricky
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  17:07:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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It takes a little elbow grease (its essentially a clear polish for your windshield) to apply, but water just flies off! Cool stuff.


As opposed to the water some how sticking to your car? I never really understood the point of that stuff.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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filthy
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Posted - 11/23/2004 :  18:00:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
It takes a little elbow grease (its essentially a clear polish for your windshield) to apply, but water just flies off! Cool stuff.


As opposed to the water some how sticking to your car? I never really understood the point of that stuff.

It maintains a much cleaner windshield. Not only water flies off, but bug splats wiper off with only little shot of washer fluid. Truckers swear by Rain-X. I used a lot of it when I was driving OTR.

Don't use it on plastics like helmet visors, though. It will fog them.

Vice grip pliers. They come in many sizes and many shapes for specialty use, like welder's clamps.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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and Crypto-Communist!

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2004 :  11:00:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
Stamps & envelopes with adhesive you don't have to lick! All others should be outlawed. Bleccchhhhh!

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