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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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 Posted - 10/09/2001 : 16:34:56 [Permalink]
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I figure that there's a chance that people could be revived because the ones doing the reviving like their food alive and they can then say, "I'm sure glad someone thought to preserve their food so well!"  
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 19:47:08 [Permalink]
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Ummm...are you sure you really understand how life insurance works?
Ok you guys don't be stupid, you know what I meant. Its not like it's going to cost you $28,000 up front. Obviously if you live long enough you will end up paying out the cash. I'm a licensed Insurance Agent, P&C, Life & Health, plus a securities license. But all of this is beside the point, unless you actually consider the cost a small life policy to be not worth the remote chance that cryonics could work? How about answering the questions I brought up in my posts?
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 20:12:21 [Permalink]
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And last but not least....no one has come up with any logical response to this: If you don't sign up you will be dead. If you do sign up you just might (might) live a very, very long time. To me its a no-brainer. I mean whats the worst case scenario. If I sign up and it does not work, what have I lost? The money I spent on a $28,000 life insurrance policy.....who cares....I'm DEAD.
Ok, I'll bite (but lay off the 'stupid' stuff; is this really such an emotionally charged subject with you?)
So you'd personally pay ~$140 a month for life insurance that will pay for the (budget plan) $28,000 for cryonic suspension. Would you pay $200? $500? $1000? When does it stop being a "no brainer"?
This same logic applies to any situation classified as a "gamble".
I could just as easily say that it is logical to buy $140 worth of lottery tickets a month, because if I win, WOOHOO!, but if I never do, well, I'll be dead eventually anyway.
The hypothetical $140 a month is worth more to me in the here-and-now than the slight possibility of winning the lottery (or being revived).
Personally, I am a full body organ donor, so even if it was ridiculously cheap, I'd still not do it. (If it was free, maybe...  )
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NubiWan
Skeptic Friend
USA
424 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 09:20:46 [Permalink]
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Now if i were the CEO of this "Life Insurance" company, would insure as many of these icicles as possible. Then quietly refuse each claim on the grounds, that they aren't truly dead. Would have a murder exemption, so when the holders are thawed out to mush for non-payment, would again refuse the claim on the grounds of murder. Then give meself a huge raise with mucho perks, and really enjoy the life that i do have. 
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2002 : 11:58:50 [Permalink]
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I have just discovered this old poll.
I have to admit that the chances of it actually working is close to nil, but what do you have to loose?
Maybe you are lucky and some future archeologist will thaw you out.
It is not that you will have better chance of being reanimated if you let them burn or bury you.
There is always hope that you will find that 'Door Into Summer'
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2002 : 23:06:06 [Permalink]
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For some reason, a thought on this popped into my head recently.
We know that what makes us "us", our personality, memories, etc. are physical properties of the brain. Most likely, "we" are a particular configuration of very small cells, neurons, pathways between said cells and neurons, etc.
Now without an exact map of how every little pathway runs, how will the nanobots know how to put "us" back together so that we will still be "us"? Will we ever have the technology to be able to know exactly what a "memory" physically is, and how to tell little machines what to do to restore them?
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/18/2002 : 09:39:53 [Permalink]
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I dunno TD. I think cryonics needs to improve beyond what it is now for it to really work, am unsure whether that will or can happen.
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DVF
Skeptic Friend
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2002 : 12:48:09 [Permalink]
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Dear Connor,
I'm sorry, I know you could really use the money for college and survival and such, but I'm going to need my life insurance to secure a freezer for my frozen corpse. I understand that this may come as a shock and a disappointment to you, especially in your time of loss. As a replacement I leave you the hope that one day an as of yet uninvented technology will be able to not only repair every cell in my freezer burned old ass that was blasted apart by freezing it, but fix whatever it was that killed me to begin with. Until then, you'll just have to make do with the stock I bought you in that free energy startup.
Love,
Dad
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2002 : 14:53:55 [Permalink]
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Michael E,
This memo is to inform you that the second that the techology is available I am to be thawed. At which time you will cease to head my corporate empire and all control shall return to me. I know that I can trust you since you said that you loved being Vice President and didn't need the stock options.
Walt D.
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