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Wendy
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 Posted - 01/10/2005 : 09:56:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
What would be evidence for you of God? If it came down and bit you on the Ass?
Naw, that could be anybody.  If God came over, introduced himself as the creator of the universe and backed up that claim by creating another one, that would probably do it for me. It still would not prove He created this universe, but I would likely give Him the benefit of the doubt.
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Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.
-- Susan Ertz
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dv82matt
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/11/2005 : 01:29:46 [Permalink]
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Well it is a bit distracting to argue over the language issue, belief vs knowledge, when the real discussion is over how one verifies the reality one accepts.
I thought I was discussing how one verifies the reality one accepts. Oh well live and learn.
No no, I agree that is what you are discussing. What I was trying to say was using the two words as the focus allows for distraction from the real discussion.
Obviously I've missed something. Are you saying that belief and knowledge are inappropriate words to focus on in a discussion about how one verifies the 'reality one accepts'?
I do, of course, accept that for whatever reason, you found my post distracting.
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Everything from the content of religious texts to surveys of various aspects of human life today point to human origin. Nothing points to divine origin.
Everything?
Well, if you are saying I couldn't have possibly evaluated everything, you would be correct.
You have correctly understood my point.quote:
But other than that, did you have something in mind that did support divine intervention?
No. I already said I agreed with your meaning.
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Originally posted by dv82matt
My point in the last post was to illustrate that faith is fundamental to humanity and that it is not always something to rail against. We are hardwired to believe certain basic things which are neccesary for survival. Perhaps some are hardwired to believe in God or spirituality.
It could also be that it is a stage of human development and rather than needing spirituality we just haven't outgrown it yet.
Indeed it could be one, or the other, or both, or neither. Someone should start a thread on it.
I don't really think that we have a substantial disagreement. With the exception of the appropriateness of my earlier post to the topic at hand, we seem to be on the same page.
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dv82matt
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Posted - 01/11/2005 : 19:46:20 [Permalink]
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beskeptigal,
I think that I now understand the reason you considered my post distracting. I equated belief to faith and then compared faith to knowledge. On rereading the thread I realise that this was a mistake on my part, and I believe that this is the reason that you found my post incongruous. In effect I was blathering about faith vs knowledge, while everyone else was talking about belief vs knowledge.
I really should make an effort to sober up before posting. |
| Edited by - dv82matt on 01/11/2005 22:20:06 |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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dv82matt
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/13/2005 : 22:31:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
But make sure you have plenty to drink if you come in on chat night.
Ha! For sure! Thanks Ricky.
I probably won't be able to join in on chats as I'm using a friend's computer and I'm loath to risk mucking it up. |
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