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Dave W.
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 Posted - 12/09/2004 : 21:06:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Although filthy it is the most likely it might not be the truth
You're right, it might not be the truth. But Geller hasn't yet provided a solid demonstration of his mental skills, after how many decades? When someone consistently avoids proper testing, yet continues to make the same untested claim, what's more likely: fraud or genuine?quote:
Let us not think of Occams Razor.
Why not? It is a powerful tool which shows us in which direction we, the general public, should move in the face of unsupported fantastic claims.quote:
We must move beyond.
To where? Do you have a replacement methodology in mind? If so, please describe it. If not, why should we "move beyond" a tool that has served humankind very well towards some unknown quantity?quote:
Plus this is not evidence. That it is most likely fraud. How scientific is that?
Very. Science doesn't deal in absolute proofs. Science doesn't tell us that the Sun will rise tomorrow, it tells us that based upon past experience, the Sun will most likely rise tomorrow.
(Oh, crap... I'm spewing E-Prime!)quote:
Is is like sayinf it is most likely a ghost threw my slipper? What is the difference.
The difference, thanks to Occam's Razor, is that your ghost is an extra assumption for which we have no evidence, while hand-bent spoons are all over the planet. You're asking about the difference between opposing propositions. The differences are quite dramatic, in such a case. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 03:56:41 [Permalink]
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If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck
and there's duckshit on you're pickup truck
then you can bet you're bottom buck
it ain't an armadillo.... 
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 08:07:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
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Kil wrote:
Storm, Uri Geller is a con man and you are a con mans wet dream...
Thanks a lot Kil. Now we'll get to hear Storm's theory of wet dreams being caused by the energy of a dead vampire psychic sasquatch from another dimension, or some such crap.
Nah. He'll talk about succubi and incubi as causing wet dreams. |
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