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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 12/20/2004 : 19:16:44 [Permalink]
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2004 : 19:23:16 [Permalink]
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Maybe as some indigestion I am not sure of all the details. but all I have proposed could be possible?  or it could not
Absence of evidence does not mean evidence is absent. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 20:05:25 [Permalink]
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Absence of evidence can mean evidence of absence. If people have been continuously hunting something for hundreds of years, and can't produce evidence of it, it's often safe to say that it doesn't exist (or those hunting have been idiots, but the two aren't mutually exclusive).
As far as "life energy" goes, Storm, are you sure of any of the details? For example, what is "life energy?" What is an "apparition?"
Yes, filthy, new wonders await us all the time. It's one of the great things about being alive in this day-and-age of near-constant discovery. But here's the thing about the energy in the universe (or in just a single star): we know that it is finite. The discoveries of today just change our estimation of the quantity of energy, hopefully by narrowing the error bars (as is illustrated by, say, historic measurements of the speed of light). The really nifty stuff being found is how that energy comes together (or blows apart) in interesting ways. |
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Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2004 : 20:35:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
Maybe as some indigestion I am not sure of all the details. but all I have proposed could be possible? or it could not
Absence of evidence does not mean evidence is absent.
Now you're just being stubborn. I like that. 
Speculation is all well and good, but it must not be allowed to cloud rational thought process'. When a speculation cannot be supported by emperical evidence, and a much better explanation is at hand, then the speculation should be abandoned in favor of that explanation.
However, the subject needs not be forgotten. Evidence might appear, albeit highly unlikely in this case.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 21:27:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Absence of evidence does not mean evidence is absent.
I just wanted to point this out, it is kind of funny. What you meant to say was "... evidence of absence." But an absence of evidence does in fact mean that evidence is (so far) absent. They mean exactly the same thing, just different wording.
Storm, until you define what a ghost is, we can't talk to you about them. Imagine if I thought the word "ghost" referred to the grass. How hard would it be if our definitions differ like that to communicate? You need to tell us what you mean when you say "ghost." Otherwise, communcation is virtually impossible.
If by ghost, you simply mean, "Energy release by living creatures", then yes, I'm pretty sure everyone has seen the definition of ghost. Heck, touch your skin, there is a ghost right there. If by ghost you mean, "Energy release by living things when they die", then I'm pretty sure all of us have seen ghosts as well.
However, if by ghost you mean, "Unexplained phenomenon which is created by the energy release of the death of a living creature", then no, I have never seen a ghost.
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Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 12/21/2004 : 01:30:13 [Permalink]
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| I've searched my drawer the whole morning for my missing sock, but if absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence, I better continue searching the same drawer for the rest of the day.... |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2004 : 03:29:58 [Permalink]
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Say, where'd ShattenJagger run off to, anyway? He's the one who started all this.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Storm
SFN Regular
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Posted - 12/21/2004 : 13:56:15 [Permalink]
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Boy you guys play rough. So let's start a new thread something I love to do here
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/21/2004 : 14:04:54 [Permalink]
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Answer the questions!
I say you ban new treads by Storm, until some of these unanswered questions get dealt with. We already have one verlch. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Storm
SFN Regular
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708 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2004 : 14:55:40 [Permalink]
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How rude Big Papa Smurf? I only come hear to speak and debate. I have provided you with plenty of evidence. You either reject it immediately or scoff at it. You can ban my threads but that would be childish!!!! If that is how you all feel and I will move on. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 12/21/2004 : 20:36:33 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
I only come hear to speak and debate.
Baloney. You haven't debated squat. Your repeated failure to answer simple questions makes debate with you impossible.quote:
I have provided you with plenty of evidence. You either reject it immediately or scoff at it.
Like what? |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 12/22/2004 : 00:31:20 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by Storm
[quote]I have provided you with plenty of evidence. You either reject it immediately or scoff at it.
Like what?
A list of this evidence you claim to have provided would be nice...
Name at least one piece of evidence that you have provided.
"ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science"
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