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Storm
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USA
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 Posted - 01/03/2005 : 09:19:44
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I watched this documentary on the discovery channel last night. It was about the moon landing being a hoax. Now while I have heard this before like the conspiracy that the holucaust did not happen I do not agree. Although they were talking about how the gloves of the astraunat would not look as it did in the pictures taken by them. They tried to replicate the walk but could not. They also talked of how the flag was flying. Any thoughts?
Remember boys be easy on me I am new here so if you have discussed this befor remember it was not with me.
[Moved to the Conspiracy Theories folder - Dave W.]
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 09:42:01 [Permalink]
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Yeah, we've been all through this one, a couple of times, if memory serves. I don't have time at the moment -- working on something else and just taking a break -- to get into it again, but will later, if someone else hasn't already done so.
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tkster
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 11:43:04 [Permalink]
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A perfect example of treating TV programs, even science ones, with great skepticism.
If I recall, snopes had an article on that, or maybe it was another source that did a document on it, perhaps I can dig up.
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Ricky
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 12:30:21 [Permalink]
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No, it wasn't a hoax. [points to Ricky's link]
If you've any questions after reading that, Storm, feel free to ask. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 13:12:07 [Permalink]
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Here's a couple of sites:
First, our good friend, the Bad astronmer, has some remarks. quote:
Fox TV and the Apollo Moon Hoax
(February 13, 2001)
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On Thursday, February 15th 2001 (and replayed on March 19), the Fox TV network aired a program called ``Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?'', hosted by X-Files actor Mitch Pileggi. The program was an hour long, and featured interviews with a series of people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings in the 1960s and 1970s. The biggest voice in this is Bill Kaysing, who claims to have all sorts of hoax evidence, including pictures taken by the astronauts, engineering details, discussions of physics and even some testimony by astronauts themselves. The program's conclusion was that the whole thing was faked in the Nevada desert (in Area 51, of course!). According to them, NASA did not have the technical capability of going to the Moon, but pressure due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union forced them to fake it.
Sound ridiculous? Of course it does! It is. So let me get this straight right from the start: this program is an hour long piece of junk.
But is Phil correct? check it out! 
The moon hoax is exactly that, but the landing was real enough. The hoax was the one put forth by people with too much time to smoke weird shit.
Coincidently, I was married on that dreadful day of the first moon landing. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 13:21:15 [Permalink]
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LMFAO.
That made me laugh. A lot. Very loud.
Bad Filthy. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 14:22:00 [Permalink]
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| Storm, this thread really belongs in either the Conspiracy section, or Astronomy. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 15:22:47 [Permalink]
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Here's a site that examines Moon Hoax claims in more detail than Bad Astronomy:
Moon Base Clavius
If you're wondering about disappearing fiducials, or non-parallel shadows, or the radiation hazards of space, or the stability of rockets or Apollo computer technology, you'll find it treated knowledgably at Clavius.
The author both thoroughly understands his subject and has a real knack for explaining it for non-technical readers without condescension or handwaving.
Share and enjoy! |
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 15:46:34 [Permalink]
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| Great Site!! Plan to spend some quality time tonight to check it out more. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 15:48:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Filthy:
But is Phil correct? check it out!
Oh hell, I almost pee'd in my pants at that one... I am still laughing...
Thanks Filthy! |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 01/03/2005 : 16:10:58 [Permalink]
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| I suggest the whole Bad Astronomy site, too. Phil rocks. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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