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Ricky
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2005 :  17:41:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

From Here:

quote:
Other illuminaries featured in the Big Question series include materialistic brain expert Susan Greenfield, occult hypnotist Ian Stewart, and Atheistic physicist Stephen Hawking -- notorious frequenter of nudie bars and maker of obscene and violent rap songs who once, on one of his TV specials, boasted of betting pornography over the existence of black holes.


No comment needed.



Eh... well, I don't know about him being a notorious frequenter at nudie bars and I seriously doubt obscene and violent rap songs, but betting the subscription of a skin-magazine over the existence of black holes seems to be right.
A subscription of Hustler, if I recall correctly.



I think I found where they got all of this from.

But they failed to read the disclaimer:

quote:
Disclaimer


This shouldn't be necessary, but just to be on the safe side I would like to make one thing perfectly clear:

Professor Stephen Hawking is a brilliant, courageous, remarkable man... he is not, however, a gangsta rapper.

Professor Hawking had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of this site or the songs on it.

If any of this came as a surprise to you, I suggest that you have a talk with your parents; they have some bad news for you about the Easter Bunny.


Edited to add:

And this is the only thing I can find about Hawking going to a strip club.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 02/12/2005 17:48:23
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  17:52:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
The story about the skin-magazine is, Hawking made a bet with a collegue that black holes did not exist. If conclusive evidence was found of the existance of black holes Hawking would lose, and pay for a subscription in his friends name.
Should Hawking be wrong about black holes, then most of his work would have been in vain, but at least he'd win a subscription... A win-win situation.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/13/2005 :  01:23:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Mab, Hawking paid up on that bet last July, no porno involved.

See, for example, the BBC:
The U-turn cost Professor Hawking a reference book called Total Baseball. He and Kip Thorne made a bet on the subject with an opponent of the idea, John Preskill, also of Caltech.

Just before he handed over the book Hawking said: "I had great difficulty in finding one over here, so I offered him an encyclopaedia of cricket as an alternative, but John wouldn't be persuaded of the superiority of cricket."

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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tkster
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USA
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Posted - 02/13/2005 :  10:06:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
Dell > Mac.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2005 :  12:48:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Mab, Hawking paid up on that bet last July, no porno involved.

Ah, good for him.
I didn't think it important enough to follow up. The deal was mentioned in his book "A brief History of Time" IIRC.

Edited to add:
Apparently the whole deal has been blown out of proportion. (accidental puns intended )

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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 02/16/2005 :  04:06:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
I love this one from objective.jesussave.us :A Godly U.S. Flag!

Wrap your self in that one and who could argue against you?

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2005 :  04:34:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

I love this one from objective.jesussave.us :A Godly U.S. Flag!

Wrap your self in that one and who could argue against you?




From the article:

quote:
...they have come under the sway of the Secular Elite...


Yes! I'm elite!

quote:
While these latter two additions ["Under God" and "In God We Trust" ] were made during the Cold War to let our Communist enemies -- both abroad and lurking in our Homeland -- know that they were on the losing side


Yes, the losing side, such as the Vietnam War.

quote:
And on a further Constitutional point, the proposed design would also make it easier to pass Flag protection legislation since flag burning and other forms of desecration could then be classified as religious hate crimes and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law -- an added bonus!


And thus, when religion enters the country, we lose our right to protest.

Are we sure this site isn't satire? Come on. I mean... come on.

Edited to add:

There appears to be some error, my post ends if I put " followed directly by ] (with no whitespace in the middle)

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 02/16/2005 04:37:04
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woolytoad
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313 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2005 :  05:04:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
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I'd love to use a Mac but they're insanely expensive, so I'll just go with my good friend Linux, oh yeah.


Naw. If you do a price/performance comparison to Dell you'll find they are just as expensive. The Mac are expensive reputation was gained during the non Steve Jobs years.

quote:
Does anybody really believe that the Mac is subliminally drawing them to The Dark Side?


Let us examine which of the 7 deadly sins my Mac has made me guilty of.
Pride: Yes. My computer is pretty than yours.
Envy: Yes. I wish I had a Dual G5 Powermac too.
Gluttony: Almost. I desire to spend more money on Macs. But I cannot afford it so I don't.
Lust: Yes. I must have an even better Mac. I must!
Wrath: No. I am much less stressed now.
Greed: Yes. I desire more Macs.
Sloth: Yes. I do less to get things to work. It just works.

6/7 is not bad.

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Starman
SFN Regular

Sweden
1613 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2005 :  05:04:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
It is satire, but a clever one.

I think they have been outed here once before.

How about this page:
quote:
Jesus Action Figure:
'Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed!'

Jesus has just risen and He's ready for adventures in Faith! Behold His nail holes (John 20:27)! Whether helping your children save Mr. Gruff or just hanging out on the dashboard of your car, this Jesus action figure will bring hours of enjoyment and Faith-based fun!

Requires: 1 sheet of paper or card stock, scissors, hobby knife, scoring tool, glue.

Coming soon: Doubting Thomas figure with finger-poking action and Galilee playset!
Edit to add: Just check out "Professor Giraffenstein's Clockwork Creation Science Factoids"
quote:
God designed bananas to fit your hand!


Here's a blog that talk about the site.



"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
Edited by - Starman on 02/16/2005 05:28:38
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2005 :  05:24:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
It is satire, but a clever one.


I guess that only leads to the real question:

How do you tell the difference between Creationist crap and satire? Is there a difference?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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leoofno
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USA
346 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2005 :  06:07:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send leoofno a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
It is satire, but a clever one.


I guess that only leads to the real question:

How do you tell the difference between Creationist crap and satire? Is there a difference?



I may be showing my age, but in the old days at talk.origins, it was considered a courtesy to include a mention of the Large Mouth Bass in any satire of creationist writings. Of course, you would put it near the end to keep 'em guessing

"If you're not terrified, you're not paying attention." Eric Alterman
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 02/16/2005 :  07:06:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by woolytoad

quote:
I'd love to use a Mac but they're insanely expensive, so I'll just go with my good friend Linux, oh yeah.


Naw. If you do a price/performance comparison to Dell you'll find they are just as expensive. The Mac are expensive reputation was gained during the non Steve Jobs years.


Not here. Here they're still too expensive for my pocket (which, admittedly, it's not that big).

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
Edited by - Siberia on 02/16/2005 07:07:13
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