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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 02/28/2005 : 02:51:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
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Originally posted by filthy
A highly skilled fraud.
If fraud is considered a criminal activity.......why Geller is laughing at you all?
He's not laughing at me. I never gave him either money or support, or bought a ticket to any of his shows. He's laughing at the people he's made fools of, and I'm snickering a little as well.
Y'see, to takes at least two people to run a swindle; the swindler and his believer(s). And a proper swindle will leave the believers still believing.
Has he made a fool of you, latinijral?
As mentioned above, stage flim-flams such as Geller's and Edward's (worse yet!) are perfectly legal.
I sneer at Geller and all of his works, and all of his ilk.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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latinijral
Banned
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 07:32:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
Troll sighting.
Hijacking your thread now.
Did I hijack any thread you created before?
Why are you afraid to answer just simple questions of my opening post?
Dave where are you?( I know you read everything I post) Your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum.
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Originally posted by Dude
NEW QUESTION!
Do you consider latinijral to be a fraud?
If so, why?
If you are obsessed with me , why don't you just start a new topic with my nick on it? Common , don't be afraid ! Make another “pseudo skeptic” poll ! The "results" will make you feel a pseudo skeptic winner.
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Originally posted by Dude
Let me start! Yes. Total fraud.
He has repeatedly made accuasations without any evidence to support them.
Examples please.
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Originally posted by Dude
He calls himself the "father of the 'new skepticism' " and refuses to answer when asked what qualifies him to have such a title.
You will be the judge? Who or what qualifies you to be my judge?
Until now ....NADA
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Originally posted by Dude
He is obsessed with Randi because the JREF refused to award the prize to his delusional friend who submitted a video of the WTC attack (with some blurry spot) as evidence of the paranormal.
Are you obsessed with Carlos/JREF case again?
Common , make a topic about that subject and prove your claim.
Don't be afraid. This is not the JREF forum , then it is not a taboo topic.
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Originally posted by Dude
He has trolled this board repeatedly in multiple threads in his obsessive quest to slander the JREF and people associated with it.
Multiple threads? Any evidence?
I just created a single one who was closed . Then I decided to opened again , and it is still in discussion because people learned not to hijack the topic ( of course you did not)with Carlos's stuff or juvenile insults.
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Originally posted by Dude
I could go on...
I hope so , but please improve yourself. Now you learned a little more, how to do it.
Don't be a troll , listen to Ricky.
Stay on topic.
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Siberia
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 07:50:53 [Permalink]
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2005 : 08:47:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
I'm still wondering what is 'new skepticism' and what makes it different from the... not new one.
I'll be damned if I know, although I suspect that it's something to do with becoming fixated on a single side of a topic and never peering 'round the corner, even if you hear a party going on 'round there.
But I'm probably wrong. Perhaps, in the fullness of time, latinijral will enlighten us.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 08:48:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
I'm still wondering what is 'new skepticism' and what makes it different from the... not new one.
As far as I can tell, it is believing blurs on a tape are supernatural, Uri Geller is not a fake, and attacking anyone who doesn't agree with your views.
But, another way to look at it is trying to give (in his mind) phanomanon that skepitcs seem to dismiss out of hand a fair shake. He doesn't realise that most of these we have already looked over and have found wanting. Granted, if new evedence comes up we will look at it again, but new evedence is hard to find on many of these phanomanon, and what most think is new evedence turns out to be the same old after we look closer at it.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 18:30:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
Dave where are you?( I know you read everything I post)
Only because I read everything. You're not special.quote:
Your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum.
I seriously doubt you're in any position to pass judgement on what is or is not a "bad example" here. As you wrote to Dude, "Who or what qualifies you to be my judge?" |
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moakley
SFN Regular
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 21:07:23 [Permalink]
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latinijral
Banned
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 23:37:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Dave where are you?( I know you read everything I post) .
Only because I read everything. You're not special. .
I was right, you read everything I post.
I have no evidence you read the rest of the posters here.Sorry.
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum. .
I seriously doubt you're in any position to pass judgement on what is or is not a "bad example" here. As you wrote to Dude, "Who or what qualifies you to be my judge?" .
Did I judge you?
No , you are the self –confessed double speech judge of this forum.
The one who can close threads or allow your dudes to hijack threads with nonsense.
Again , your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum.
He is just a hit and run poster.
Or do you think he did a “good example to your forum ” response to my opening post?
Answer please.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 03:29:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Dave where are you?( I know you read everything I post) .
Only because I read everything. You're not special. .
I was right, you read everything I post.
I have no evidence you read the rest of the posters here.Sorry.
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum. .
I seriously doubt you're in any position to pass judgement on what is or is not a "bad example" here. As you wrote to Dude, "Who or what qualifies you to be my judge?" .
Did I judge you?
No , you are the self –confessed double speech judge of this forum.
The one who can close threads or allow your dudes to hijack threads with nonsense.
Again , your “dude” is giving a bad example to your forum.
He is just a hit and run poster.
Or do you think he did a “good example to your forum ” response to my opening post?
Answer please.
Trust me, Dave reads 'em; every single, tedious one. 
Actually, all of us read most of them, and we at least look at all of the threads. So there's really no reason to harp upon that -- it doesn't mean anything other than we tend to be studious as well as skeptical.
Dude is hardly "hit & run." If you wish to converse with him, I've no doubt he'll be easy to find; indeed, you'll scarcly have to look.
Latinijral my friend, you need to come up with some evidence other than ancedote and hearsay if you want to make any kind of positive impression here. Bitchin' about the staff and members ain't cuttin' it. In fact, this behavior would probably get you shit-canned anywhere else. Observe, you are not only still free to post here, and are likely to remain free to post here, but every word that you have written, closed thread or not, is still available for view by anyone masochistic enough to want to.
Now then, that said, what evidence do you have that Geller is anything but a slight-of-hand artist with a gift for grift?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 07:46:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Filthy
Trust me, Dave reads 'em; every single, tedious one.
Well , well, well……. so you want me to trust you?
And you pretend to be a skeptic?
That is what I had be denouncing about the way the pseudo scepticism acts like just another group of self confessed believers:”trust me , please”
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Originally posted by Filthy
Actually, all of us read most of them, and we at least look at all of the threads. So there's really no reason to harp upon that -- it doesn't mean anything other than we tend to be studious as well as skeptical.
Your second error as an skeptic : you are using a logical fallacy.
Who gave you the power to speak in name of “all of us” ( including “judge” Dave)?
What special paranormal powers you pretend to have, that can allow you to know what the rest of your “dudes” do or not?
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Originally posted by Filthy
Dude is hardly "hit & run." If you wish to converse with him, I've no doubt he'll be easy to find; indeed, you'll scarcly have to look.
My reply to his juvenile,out of topic and nonsense post is there, before your reply.
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Originally posted by Filthy
Latinijral my friend, you need to come up with some evidence other than ancedote and hearsay if you want to make any kind of positive impression here. Bitchin' about the staff and members ain't cuttin' it. In fact, this behavior would probably get you shit-canned anywhere else. Observe, you are not only still free to post here, and are likely to remain free to post here, but every word that you have written, closed thread or not, is still available for view by anyone masochistic enough to want to.
More bla bla bla out of topic.
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Originally posted by Filthy
Now then, that said, what evidence do you have that Geller is anything but a slight-of-hand artist with a gift for grift?
Wow ! You mentioned Geller!
The only problem is that you “think” I created this topic with the promise that I will bring evidence that Geller is anything but a slight-of-hand artist with a gift for grift.
You are wrong again , my dear friend Filthy.
Read again my opening post , please.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 08:20:42 [Permalink]
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Latinijral, at quote-mining and attacking straw men, you have few peers. I salute you.
Now, again I ask, probably in futility, for empirical evidence in favor of the charlaton Geller actually being able to do what he claims. If you cannot produce such, I will have no choice but to conclude that the 'new skeptism' is no more than a collecting of opinions, stories, slander, and on-line gossip.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Starman
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 08:31:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
Well , well, well……. so you want me to trust you?
And you pretend to be a skeptic?
This "new skepticism" seems not to involve using a brain.
At least latinijral provides some humor... |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 08:35:41 [Permalink]
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This "new skepticism" seems not to involve using a brain.
At least latinijral provides some humor...
Indeed, if it weren't for it's obvious sillyness I would embrace it solely for this reason  |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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New Member
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 08:47:52 [Permalink]
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| Latin, there have been answers in this thread to your first post. Why don't you spill what you obviously want to tell us about Geller. |
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