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Dr. Mabuse
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 Posted - 03/01/2005 : 08:54:50 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by latinijral
More bla bla bla out of topic.
Not "out of topic" but it should read "off topic".
'Out of topic' implies we have run out of subjects to discuss. Ironically, this is what has happened regarding the expectations of meaningful conversations with you latinjral, as evidenced by the contents of the many posts you've received lately.
If you quit bitching about the members, and allow them some leeway, I think they will become more agreeable. This has happened before, and if you stand down, then so will the others.
There are quite a few of us who don't readily back down from pissing contests. Calling Skeptic Friends pseudo-skeptics is definitely the way to start one.
So if you don't want one, then please allow everyone to cool off.
Playing word-games is not a good way. Your command of the English language is not good enough for that, it will only make people more pissed off at you.
This is a friendly advice from me, please don't ignore it.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 13:32:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
I have no evidence you read the rest of the posters here.Sorry.
Well, bottom line, I've got no evidence that you exist. So, until you prove that you do exist as a human being, I've got little motivation to answer you. Sorry.
To the rest of the folks here: this thread isn't really about Geller, it's about the multiple meanings of the word 'fraud'. latinijral (who may or may not exist) is attempting to equivocate "Geller is a fraud," where the meaning is simply that Geller isn't a real psychic, with "James Randi committed fraud," where the meaning is that Randi used his foundation's funds in a criminal manner. It is a nonsense thread and a trick question, which is why latinijral suggested that people be careful before answering. |
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 14:06:08 [Permalink]
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| Queue latinijral's post of "You are using skills of psuedo skeptic for saying that you know what I am thinking" in 4...3...2...1... |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 14:28:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
To the rest of the folks here: this thread isn't really about Geller, it's about the multiple meanings of the word 'fraud'.
I thought that was obvious as soon as I read the subject-line of the thread. That's why I waited until now to post in it. |
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Dude
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 15:03:53 [Permalink]
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Why are you afraid to answer just simple questions of my opening post?
Because your opening post was either a demonstration that you are to stupid to understand the different meanings of the word "fraud", or childish lead-in to a blatant and repititious attack against Randi. Or both.
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He has trolled this board repeatedly in multiple threads in his obsessive quest to slander the JREF and people associated with it.
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Multiple threads? Any evidence?
And you have started multiple (more than one) threads to rant about your little vendetta against Randi. Are you so simpleminded that I need to post links to your own threads as evidence for this claim? Get over yourself.
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If you are obsessed with me , why don't you just start a new topic with my nick on it? Common , don't be afraid ! Make another “pseudo skeptic” poll ! The "results" will make you feel a pseudo skeptic winner.
You are hardly worth the trouble. Besides, you'd probably enjoy the attention in some pseudo masochistic way.
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Originally posted by Dude
Let me start! Yes. Total fraud.
He has repeatedly made accuasations without any evidence to support them.
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Examples please.
You claim that Randi and the JREF have commited fraud (the illegal kind). All you have done is make the claim, you have offered ZERO evidence of fraudulent activity. In support of your case you have only posted pics of Penn's car and on another forum you linked to some nude pics of somebody whom you claim (without evidence) is a stripper who uses the internet alias Moefaux.
You claim, without evidence, that Moefaux was awarded a JREF scholarship in violation of the JREF rules.
You claim, without evidence, that there is some illicit relationship between this woman and Randi or Hal Bidlack.
You claim without evidence, that JREF awarded a scholarship to Bidlack's son in violation of the JREF rules.
You claim, without evidence, that you are the "father of the new skepticism".
You claim, without evidence, that your retarded friend who submitted a video of the 9/11 attacks with a blurry spot as evidence for the paranormal, was treated unfairly by the JREF.
and on and on and on.... your list of unevidenced claims is quite large.
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He calls himself the "father of the 'new skepticism' " and refuses to answer when asked what qualifies him to have such a title.
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You will be the judge? Who or what qualifies you to be my judge?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/01/2005 : 16:34:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
You claim without evidence, that JREF awarded a scholarship to Bidlack's son in violation of the JREF rules.
Just a nitpick, but latinijral (if he even exists) actually makes this claim contrary to the available evidence. |
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/02/2005 : 21:17:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by DUDE.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Why are you afraid to answer just simple questions of my opening post?
Because your opening post was either a demonstration that you are to stupid to understand the different meanings of the word "fraud", or childish lead-in to a blatant and repititious attack against Randi. Or both.
So those are your “reasons” why you are afraid to answer the simple questions of my opening post?
Don't be afraid my son, read again the opening post.
You will find it doesn't say anything you assumed.
The kind of attitude you demonstrated with the FIRST REPLY to my opening post ,was either a demonstration that you are so stupid to understand simple questions ,or you are using drugs ,or you are paranoid in order to defend your leader Randi,
or you feel with a fatal attraction to me or Carlos. Or all of them.
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Originally posted by DUDE.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Multiple threads? Any evidence?
And you have started multiple (more than one) threads to rant about your little vendetta against Randi. Are you so simpleminded that I need to post links to your own threads as evidence for this claim? Get over yourself.
Poor son, according to your poor definition TWO can be considered as MULTIPLE ( in your context).
Don't be afraid again my son , do you have any evidence of your stupid claim?
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Originally posted by DUDE.
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Originally posted by latinijral
If you are obsessed with me , why don't you just start a new topic with my nick on it? Common , don't be afraid ! Make another “pseudo skeptic” poll ! The "results" will make you feel a pseudo skeptic winner. .
You are hardly worth the trouble. Besides, you'd probably enjoy the attention in some pseudo masochistic way.
If I enjoyed your attention because you feel pseudo masochist, then you have another problem to resolve.
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Originally posted by DUDE.
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Originally posted by latinijral
Examples please. .
You claim that Randi and the JREF have commited fraud (the illegal kind). All you have done is make the claim, you have offered ZERO evidence of fraudulent activity. In support of your case you have only posted pics of Penn's car and on another forum you linked to some nude pics of somebody whom you claim (without evidence) is a stripper who use |
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Dude
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 04:02:48 [Permalink]
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MoeFaux was awarded a JREF scholarship in violation of the JREF rules.
Again, it's very obvious that you are incapable of providing evidence for this claim.
You say it, and say it again, and you never have provided evidence.
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Hal Bidlack was the JREF director when his own son was awarded .
Until now is unethical and a symptom of nepotism. Violation of the rules? No ,I never said that.
1. You have provided no evidence that this guy's son was ever awarded a scholarship.
2. IF he was, and it wasn't a violation of the rules of the JREF, then how is it unethical?
3. Nepotism, in most cases, is frowned upon. But it is not always unethical.
You have failed to make even a coherent statement on this particular issue. You vomit up some garbage about Bidlack Jr. getting a JREF scholarship only in an attempt to distort reality and try to lend weight to your personal fantasy about the JREF.
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You claim, without evidence, that you are the "father of the new skepticism".
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Poor baby , are you having nightmares because of that?
Why don't you start a topic about it?
It's your claim, why don't YOU start a thread about it and explain your qualifications to us all.
And here is what dictionary.com has to say about the word "multiple" when used as an adjective.
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Having, relating to, or consisting of more than one individual, element, part, or other component; manifold.
It is you who clearly fails to comprehend the meaning of the word. And, again, are you truly so simpleminded that you need me to post links to every post I have made asking you to explain what qualifies you to hold a title like "father of the new skepticism"?
Don't blame me for your own shortcommings. You're the one who decided to come to an English language forum, even though it is quite obvious that your primary language is not English. You should atleast TRY to look up the definition of words before you call anyone for inaproppriate use.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 07:20:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
So those are your “reasons” why you are afraid to answer the simple questions of my opening post?
Don't be afraid my son, read again the opening post.
You will find it doesn't say anything you assumed.
Hey, latinijral, son. Given that others (myself included) have answered your "simple question" why don't you go ahead and get to the point. Your bickering with Dude wastes time and, well, makes you look like a troll.
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 08:02:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by DUDE
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Originally posted by latinijral
MoeFaux was awarded a JREF scholarship in violation of the JREF rules.
Again, it's very obvious that you are incapable of providing evidence for this claim.
You say it, and say it again, and you never have provided evidence.
Since you are not discussing this stuff in the only thread available and opened for doing it , it is not my fault your poor attempt to hijack this thread. Go there and just read the evidence provided by the JREF “ex” money donators.
Remember …there …..not here.
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Originally posted by DUDE
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Originally posted by latinijral
Hal Bidlack was the JREF director when his own son was awarded .
Until now is unethical and a symptom of nepotism. Violation of the rules? No ,I never said that.
1. You have provided no evidence that this guy's son was ever awarded a scholarship.
2. IF he was, and it wasn't a violation of the rules of the JREF, then how is it unethical?
3. Nepotism, in most cases, is frowned upon. But it is not always unethical.
You have failed to make even a coherent statement on this particular issue. You vomit up some garbage about Bidlack Jr. getting a JREF scholarship only in an attempt to distort reality and try to lend weight to your personal fantasy about the JREF.
Your opinions are welcome in the only thread available and open about this particular topic. Don't be afraid to do it there.
If you consider that the son of the JREF director was corrected awarded , please provide the evidence………………………………..but do it THERE ( in the correct thread), not HERE.
I am not going to call you retarded for not understanding something simple. I understand you are pissed off and a little paranoid.
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Originally posted by DUDE
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You claim, without evidence, that you are the "father of the new skepticism".
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Poor baby , are you having nightmares because of that?
Why don't you start a topic about it?
It's your claim, why don't YOU start a thread about it and explain your qualifications to us all.
Since you are the one who are curious about it , you are the one who should do it . Why are you still afaid?
I didn't create this thread to discuss that topic.
And I am free to create the threads I want to.
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And here is what dictionary.com has to say about the word "multiple" when use |
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filthy
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 08:17:14 [Permalink]
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Hmph. And all this time I was laboring under the impression that it was about the pettifogger Geller and the 'New Skepticism,' what ever that might be. Go figger...
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 10:46:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijral
Now, stay on topic...
How well do you follow your own advice?quote:
Since you are not discussing this stuff in the only thread available and opened for doing it , it is not my fault your poor attempt to hijack this thread. Go there and just read the evidence provided by the JREF “ex” money donators.
Remember …there …..not here.
The above is not on topic.quote:
Your opinions are welcome in the only thread available and open about this particular topic. Don't be afraid to do it there.
If you consider that the son of the JREF director was corrected awarded , please provide the evidence………………………………..but do it THERE ( in the correct thread), not HERE.
I am not going to call you retarded for not understanding something simple. I understand you are pissed off and a little paranoid.
The above is not on topic.quote:
Since you are the one who are curious about it , you are the one who should do it . Why are you still afaid?
I didn't create this thread to discuss that topic.
And I am free to create the threads I want to.
The above is not on topic.quote:
I am teaching you how to be a real skeptic .
When you wrote this sentence : “And you have started multiple (more than one) threads to rant about your little vendetta against Randi.”
When you wrote : “MORE THAN ONE” , you opened the possibilities to be : two or two hundreds, or two millions , etc.
You know the exact number . I explained to you the exact number .But you are afraid to put the evidence that confirms what you are claiming.
I have started multiple threads in this forum . That is a fact.
It is your claim that I started MULTIPLE threads ABOUT RANDI . Prove it.
Don't be afraid.
The above is not on topic.quote:
Read all the above.
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I congratulate you , your large list of previous paranoid is getting shorter and shorter.
Now that you finally understood this thread it is not about me , Randi, Carlos , Moe, Bidlack ,dictionaries , etc……..can you just answer the simple questions ( JUST TWO) of my opening post?
If you want to qualify it as MULTIPLE questions , well go ahead. I want you to be happy and relax.
The above is not on topic.
And so we can see that latinijral (who still hasn't proved he exists) can demand that others stay on topic, while himself making a post which contains not a single on-topic remark.
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filthy
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:41:42 [Permalink]
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And so we can see that latinijral (who still hasn't proved he exists) can demand that others stay on topic, while himself making a post which contains not a single on-topic remark.
The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
Could this be the New Skepticism, then? Come up with a statement: support it with internet-forum blather whilst providing no other reference, and call it Truth & Light. Then imply that those who fail to agree are closed-minded troglodytes who wouldn't know jack-shit about much of anything, and need help finding the WC in the morning. And then forget to raise the lid and piss on their feet.
I like it. It's so much easier...
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 13:17:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by latinijralSince you are not discussing this stuff in the only thread available and opened for doing it , it is not my fault your poor attempt to hijack this thread.
By answering Dude's post, you are confirming it, thereby legitimizing his thread-hijack. You have yourself to blame for that. Don't swallow any and all baits that are tossed your way. |
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