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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  07:19:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Is KIL a SFN administrator who can give official warnings to the members ?
Kil is one of the founders of the SFN, so the answer is 'yes'.

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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2005 :  07:34:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

That's a damn cool car. I especially like the hot pink color and personalized plate. Alas, if only I had money... I'd look snazzy in one of those.


Okay, I'm gonna throw the windows in here for a moment. The retro beetle stinks, especially in that color. Come on guys, it's just ugly. And it's got it's motor in the front in stead of in the rear. I mean, if you're going to make a retro car, at least retain the cool specs. And then the awful curvature. Same by the way for the new retro minis, which are also ugly (and much too large on top of that).

No, I'm gonna get myself a Donkervoort when I have the money for it.

Tom

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2005 :  09:14:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave.

You can suggest that we take off the JREF link all you like, but it's not going to happen. Just because you and a handful of other people are annoyed at the JREF over money and your vague implications of impropriety doesn't mean that they don't provide good information about skepticism, critical thought, and science.



Here is another quote, from a SFN member, about this topic.
He is piss off that the JREF don't link SFN.




quote:
Originally posted by Kil

Kil
So, why is it that I should give a rats ass about any of this? We are SFN, not the JREF. Hell, they don't even link to us!


http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3866&whichpage=6

Is KIL a SFN administrator who can give official warnings to the members ?





Kil was not pissed off at the JREF for not linking.

And yes, he is an administrator his warning was well thought out and posted. As a SFN moderator, I fully agree with his warning. You've been given plenty of leeway.

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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2005 :  14:11:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80
And it's got it's motor in the front in stead of in the rear. I mean, if you're going to make a retro car, at least retain the cool specs.
Exactly what I posted...
quote:
No, I'm gonna get myself a Donkervoort when I have the money for it.

Cool design. Reminds me of Lotus Super Seven...

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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  15:17:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
I still prefer the Beetle. Just for the looks, though - it's all... round and cute. Of course, I'm not that much into cars...

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latinijral
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  20:22:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Is KIL a SFN administrator who can give official warnings to the members ?
Kil is one of the founders of the SFN, so the answer is 'yes'.



Then we have one administrator whois pissed off becuase the JREF don't link us and another administrator who si happy the JREF don't link us.

One SFN administrator agrees with me.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  21:07:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Then we have one administrator whois pissed off becuase the JREF don't link us and another administrator who si happy the JREF don't link us.

One SFN administrator agrees with me.
No, Kil doesn't agree with you, as one of our moderators, Valinat Dancer, already told you. Kil isn't angry that the JREF doesn't link to the SFN.

And I'm not "happy" that the JREF doesn't link to us, I'm just not so naive and idealistic as to think that they should.

Before you tell us what our attitudes are about certain things, you could at least have the common decency to ask us what our attitudes are.

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  21:27:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

I still prefer the Beetle. Just for the looks, though - it's all... round and cute. Of course, I'm not that much into cars...



I think that when you say you like a car because it is, "round and cute," it becomes pretty obvious you aren't much into cars.

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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  06:11:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

I still prefer the Beetle. Just for the looks, though - it's all... round and cute. Of course, I'm not that much into cars...


How about this one. It's got nice curves.

(Just promoting dutch car industry here, the thread really hasn't got more worth than that).

Tom

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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  06:16:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Before you tell us what our attitudes are about certain things, you could at least have the common decency to ask us what our attitudes are.


But come on, it wouldn't be 'new skepticism' if you would, now would it?

Tom

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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  06:20:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

I still prefer the Beetle. Just for the looks, though - it's all... round and cute. Of course, I'm not that much into cars...



I think that when you say you like a car because it is, "round and cute," it becomes pretty obvious you aren't much into cars.


Hey, I'm a girl
Nah, not really. I prefer things like airplanes and helicopters... alas, if only my vision and bones were somewhat decent (or I had a shitload of money)! I'd gladly join the Air Force.

Btw Tom, those are very fine cars. Love the curves. You changed my mind

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Edited by - Siberia on 03/08/2005 06:22:30
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  07:34:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Then we have one administrator whois pissed off becuase the JREF don't link us and another administrator who si happy the JREF don't link us.

One SFN administrator agrees with me.
No, Kil doesn't agree with you, as one of our moderators, Valinat Dancer, already told you. Kil isn't angry that the JREF doesn't link to the SFN.

And I'm not "happy" that the JREF doesn't link to us, I'm just not so naive and idealistic as to think that they should.

Before you tell us what our attitudes are about certain things, you could at least have the common decency to ask us what our attitudes are.



Then Valiant Dancer and you are speaking in name of KIL?

Kil is the one who should put why he wrote this and if he was acting naive as Dave.
"We are SFN, not the JREF. Hell, they don't even link to us!"

Hmmmmm,I don't think so.
He was pissed off the JREF don't even link to us.
Anyway let's wait what he has to argument.

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2005 :  08:03:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral
Kil is the one who should put why he wrote this and if he was acting naive as Dave.
"We are SFN, not the JREF. Hell, they don't even link to us!"

Hmmmmm,I don't think so.
He was pissed off the JREF don't even link to us.
Anyway let's wait what he has to argument.


You have poor reading comprehension skills, don't you latinijral. Kil's point wasn't that he's mad about our not being linked on JREF. It was that we aren't JREF. And as proof (as though we needed it), he noted that the two groups-- JREF and SFN-- are so distinct that one doesn't even link to the other.

But I'm sure Kil will clear this up and you'll be left (again) with nothing new to argue about.
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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2005 :  08:29:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral
Then Valiant Dancer and you are speaking in name of KIL?

Kil is the one who should put why he wrote this and if he was acting naive as Dave.
"We are SFN, not the JREF. Hell, they don't even link to us!"

Hmmmmm,I don't think so.
He was pissed off the JREF don't even link to us.
Anyway let's wait what he has to argument.



"Hell, they don't even link to us!" clearly does not indicate anger. It indicates that SFN is not a very big organisation, and that it is questionable that JREF even knows SFN exists. At least, that's what I get from that. How you come to the conclusion that Kil was angry is beyond me.

Furthermore, knowing that Valiant Dancer and Dave W. are both administrators on this site, and go way further back with Kil than you, I'd say it is a safe bet that their comment on this is more accurate than yours.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2005 :  08:44:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

Then we have one administrator whois pissed off becuase the JREF don't link us and another administrator who si happy the JREF don't link us.

One SFN administrator agrees with me.
No, Kil doesn't agree with you, as one of our moderators, Valinat Dancer, already told you. Kil isn't angry that the JREF doesn't link to the SFN.

And I'm not "happy" that the JREF doesn't link to us, I'm just not so naive and idealistic as to think that they should.

Before you tell us what our attitudes are about certain things, you could at least have the common decency to ask us what our attitudes are.



Then Valiant Dancer and you are speaking in name of KIL?

Kil is the one who should put why he wrote this and if he was acting naive as Dave.
"We are SFN, not the JREF. Hell, they don't even link to us!"

Hmmmmm,I don't think so.
He was pissed off the JREF don't even link to us.
Anyway let's wait what he has to argument.




We are interpreting things he has posted on these fora where he clearly has indicated that he is not angry that JREF doesn't link to us. Kil could respond and put an end to your objection on this matter. I don't believe that we are wrong in this matter.

The context of the passage quoted from Kil does not support your assertation that he is pissed off. It clearly indicates that this board is not owned, operated, or even associated remotely professionally with JREF. Your dodge of his original question of "what do you want us to do about this" remains as you yet again grab onto an unrelated assertation in order to distract away from your dodge.

Context, it's not just a good idea, it's often the way to meaning.

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