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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 03/07/2005 : 10:56:24
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7091082/
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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sweetmiracle
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:20:09 [Permalink]
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But maybe the moon probe could be another part of the conspiracy...not really thgere, just a computer animation.... |
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:47:37 [Permalink]
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Good point sweetmiracle, and the europeans are in the conspiracy because of the New World Order.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:14:18 [Permalink]
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| ...which is really the Old World Order coming to fruition, we shall worship the Owl once again.....Anyone feel like going to Hooters to be mind controlled by the evil women? |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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sweetmiracle
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:19:45 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
...which is really the Old World Order coming to fruition, we shall worship the Owl once again.....Anyone feel like going to Hooters to be mind controlled by the evil women?
they're only trying to prepare you for the coming return to matriarchy...
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:46:59 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by sweetmiracle
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
...which is really the Old World Order coming to fruition, we shall worship the Owl once again.....Anyone feel like going to Hooters to be mind controlled by the evil women?
they're only trying to prepare you for the coming return to matriarchy...
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... when the women will rule and the men will cook. Not to mention lots of kinky sex. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:27:52 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
... when the women will rule and the men will cook. Not to mention lots of kinky sex.
I don't know about women ruling, but I already do the cooking, and I wouldn't mind some kinky sex... |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 00:38:26 [Permalink]
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Look what happened when we got better images of the face on mars.
They believers are still around...
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 05:50:24 [Permalink]
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| Yeah they even made a big budget movie about the face after it was "exposed", a very bad movie. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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no1important
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 07:55:02 [Permalink]
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| Well it has yet to prove anything yet. They will more than likley doctor the pictures before they are released. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 08:10:54 [Permalink]
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Of course they'll doctor the pictures. Do you think they come out all pretty and neat as we see them? |
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- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 09:48:06 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Yeah they even made a big budget movie about the face after it was "exposed", a very bad movie.
I thought it was a great movie until the last 10 minutes or so. |
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no1important
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/13/2005 : 19:26:47 [Permalink]
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I got this from the European Space Agencey Web site http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/SMART-1/SEMFQEQ3K3E_0.html
Will SMART-1 be able to see evidence of NASA's Apollo moonlandings?
Despite the fact that SMART-1 will cover virtually the whole Moon with observations by with several instruments, unfortunately we will not be able to image the Apollo landing sites with enough resolution to detect the presence of any remains from the Apollo missions.
A resolution of about 1 metre would be necessary for that. We have a camera with a resolution of 0.005176°, which translates into a resolution of about 90 metres from an altitude of around 1000 kilometres. In order to image the Apollo remains with our camera, we would then need to fly at an altitude of about 11 kilometres. This is due to the fact that the optics of our camera were designed for the specific scientific needs of this mission. We could have easily designed an optical system with a narrower field of view and capable of detecting the Apollo remains, but alas this was not a mission goal.
so the coverup so to speak is already well under way. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/13/2005 : 20:05:46 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by no1important
I got this from the European Space Agencey Web site http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/SMART-1/SEMFQEQ3K3E_0.html
Will SMART-1 be able to see evidence of NASA's Apollo moonlandings?
Despite the fact that SMART-1 will cover virtually the whole Moon with observations by with several instruments, unfortunately we will not be able to image the Apollo landing sites with enough resolution to detect the presence of any remains from the Apollo missions.
A resolution of about 1 metre would be necessary for that. We have a camera with a resolution of 0.005176°, which translates into a resolution of about 90 metres from an altitude of around 1000 kilometres. In order to image the Apollo remains with our camera, we would then need to fly at an altitude of about 11 kilometres. This is due to the fact that the optics of our camera were designed for the specific scientific needs of this mission. We could have easily designed an optical system with a narrower field of view and capable of detecting the Apollo remains, but alas this was not a mission goal.
so the coverup so to speak is already well under way.
I would think that the cameras might pick up the discarded moon rover, if nothing else.
This whole moon hoax conjecture was made up by people with too much time on their hands and too easy access to to prescription hallucinogens.
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Skeptic Guy
New Member
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2005 : 10:13:55 [Permalink]
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Has anyone heard anything more on this topic? Will the Smart-1 spacecraft be able to resolve the necessary detail to see any Apollo equipment left on the surface of the moon? I would love to silence the moon hoax wacko's...not that it really would, I guess.
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2005 : 11:19:57 [Permalink]
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Whether or not No1Important is serious, he/she has provided a wonderful example of how HBers will view any space mission that could provide photo evidence of the presence of Apollo hardware on the Moon.
If a mission yields pictures showing an LM or LRV or suchlike, the pictures were doctored. If a spacecraft images parts of the lunar surface but doesn't have the resolution required to make out Apollo artifacts, because looking for them wasn't its purpose, it's a cover-up.
When people are determinedly unwilling to recognize the sheer massiveness of the evidence on which the historical view of Apollo is based and the way in which it all converges towards that view, there is no single "smoking gun" that will change their minds. |
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