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Randy
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USA
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 Posted - 03/23/2005 : 21:34:39
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Fascinating read...
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/auto/epaper/editions/wednesday/news_241432d7c3c530e100d9.html
"Plants inherit secret stashes of genetic information from their long-dead ancestors and can use them to correct errors in their own genes, a startling capacity for DNA editing and self-repair wholly unanticipated by modern genetics, researchers said Tuesday. "
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Starman
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Sweden
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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 Posted - 03/24/2005 : 07:08:07 [Permalink]
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I heard about this on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday.
Were I an IDer (and I'm not), I'd take this as a sign of design. I'd argue that if a plant, even when its genes are tinkered with, produces a generation with genes that appear untinkered with, it suggests that things tend to revert to their "original" or "designed" state. How would they do this? By magic, of course, just like God the designer did when He it created life on earth in the first place.
Maybe. It's a weak argument, but then again-- so id ID.  |
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tkster
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/25/2005 : 13:47:05 [Permalink]
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Yes I have no doubt that the Creationists will try to spin this one. I'm not sure exactly how they'll do it, but I had already seen one claim that Natural Selection was invalid at a forum I debate regularly at because of this.
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Plyss
Skeptic Friend
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/26/2005 : 10:24:29 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by tkster
Yes I have no doubt that the Creationists will try to spin this one. I'm not sure exactly how they'll do it, but I had already seen one claim that Natural Selection was invalid at a forum I debate regularly at because of this.
tk
They actually argued that natural selection is invalid based on one study on one organism where a low percentage of inheritance seems to be non-mendelian? |
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tkster
Skeptic Friend
USA
193 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2005 : 15:31:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Plyss
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Originally posted by tkster
Yes I have no doubt that the Creationists will try to spin this one. I'm not sure exactly how they'll do it, but I had already seen one claim that Natural Selection was invalid at a forum I debate regularly at because of this.
tk
They actually argued that natural selection is invalid based on one study on one organism where a low percentage of inheritance seems to be non-mendelian?
Yes. It's amazing this study, though fascinating, is not definite yet and there's a lot I've been told we still don't know. It would take a great deal of evidence to overthrow this law, so I'm not holding my breath just yet.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/26/2005 : 15:43:19 [Permalink]
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But...but.... it's still a plant! It did not turn into an aardvark!
Therefore, evolution is disproved!
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