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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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 Posted - 04/06/2005 : 12:20:32
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This just turned up in my email box. Thought I would share. If anyone here is lives in the Toronto area, this might be worth attending.
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From: Skeptics Canada and OSSCI
Added: NOTE: Date is Friday, 08 April, 2005
The Case of the Allegedly Fatal Chiropractic Neck Adjustment
Crusading lawyers Amani and Neil Oakley address the bimonthly public meeting in
Toronto. Free admission. All welcome. OISE, Fifth floor, Room 5-185. 7 p.m.
The Oakley's law firm represented the family of Lana Dale Lewis at a closely
watched inquest that concluded in early 2004. Lewis, 45, died in 1996 of strokes
shortly after receiving chiropractic neck adjustments. After the inquest, which
took place over two and a half years, and brought in a decision that essentially
blamed the chiropractor's work, the Oakleys have been outspoken critics of
chiropractic neck adjustments. Amani electrified the audience at last year's
Skeptical Exposition with her robust presentation, and here's your chance to
hear this exciting speaker.
Skeptics Canada
www.skeptics.ca
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2005 : 12:37:31 [Permalink]
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I have to admit that I have used the services of a chiropractor a few times, mostly because the chiropractor I found (found her while searching for a good massage therapist) is extremely hot, and so is her massage therapist... not to mention skilled enough to relax the always tight muscles in my back. But I never have thought that these people serve any valid medical use beyond the massage.
I'm a big guy, and have a sedentary job. It just feels good to have my back popped and then massaged for a good 45minutes :)
Oddly, I have never let them mess with my neck. Just to freaky.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/06/2005 : 13:08:17 [Permalink]
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| My 90-year-old mother has gone to a chiropractor for years and he works on her neck. I mentioned to her that I had read about problems arising from neck adjustments, especially in the elderly. Her chiropractor told her that that wasn't the kind of adjustment that he did. She says that he helps her, so I said no more. |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2005 : 15:08:57 [Permalink]
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How could a chiropractic neck adjustment cause you to have a stroke? By pressing the carotid arteries until you faint, and then some?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/06/2005 : 16:58:40 [Permalink]
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How could a chiropractic neck adjustment cause you to have a stroke? By pressing the carotid arteries until you faint, and then some?
A person with bad arterial sclerosis could have a piece of plaque break off in the corotid and travel to a small vessel in the brain...
But that's just speculation.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13481 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2005 : 17:38:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
How could a chiropractic neck adjustment cause you to have a stroke? By pressing the carotid arteries until you faint, and then some?
From the the Quackwatch site:
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Chiropractic's Dirty Secret:
Neck Manipulation and Strokes
Stroke from chiropractic neck manipulation occurs when an artery to the brain ruptures or becomes blocked as a result of being stretched. The injury often results from extreme rotation in which the practitioner's hands are placed on the patient's head in order to rotate the cervical spine by rotating the head [1]. The vertebral artery is vulnerable because it winds around the topmost cervical vertebra (atlas) to enter the skull, so that any abrupt rotation may stretch the artery and tear its delicate lining.
The rest of this article can be found here. |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2005 : 01:58:28 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kil
quote:
Originally posted by Hawks
How could a chiropractic neck adjustment cause you to have a stroke? By pressing the carotid arteries until you faint, and then some?
From the the Quackwatch site:
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Chiropractic's Dirty Secret:
Neck Manipulation and Strokes
Stroke from chiropractic neck manipulation occurs when an artery to the brain ruptures or becomes blocked as a result of being stretched. The injury often results from extreme rotation in which the practitioner's hands are placed on the patient's head in order to rotate the cervical spine by rotating the head [1]. The vertebral artery is vulnerable because it winds around the topmost cervical vertebra (atlas) to enter the skull, so that any abrupt rotation may stretch the artery and tear its delicate lining.
The rest of this article can be found here.
I also have taken care of a newly made quadriplegic in the ICU whose chiropractic care contributed to his permanent injury. The man fell off a roof but was able to move afterward. He saw a chiropractor for care rather than a doctor. Several days later he presented to the ED unable to move from the neck down. He ruptured an artery to his spinal cord. The physicians felt either he was injured in the fall and the chiropractor failed to diagnose it in time to prevent damage to the cord, or the chiropractor actually caused the rupture or made it worse by the neck manipulations. The damage was irreversible by the time the guy received a proper diagnosis and care. |
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