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R.Wreck
SFN Regular

USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2005 :  14:13:44  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
Faith Based Cheerleading, what else!

quote:
"It's not dorky. It's not '80s cheerleading. They just take out the gross stuff."


I'm not sure what the "gross stuff" would be, but apparently they've figured out a way to eliminate it. Maybe they don't move at all?

quote:
"We're trying to teach kids to use their talents and abilities to glorify Christ, and that's something that will stay with them a long time, maybe their whole lives."



Gimme a J!
Gimme an E!
Gimme an S!
Gimme a U!
Gimme an S!

He died for our sins!
Now He lets our team win!
We're the best in the nation!
With our guaranteed salvation!

Oh well, whatever floats your boat, I guess.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion

sweetmiracle
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USA
74 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2005 :  14:24:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sweetmiracle a Private Message
It's rather odd how these people who are supposed to be in touch with the Creator, who supposedly have a hotline to the source of all inventiveness usually just take the low road and baptize whatever secular trends happen by.

Whether it's reworking cheerleading or putting post-it notes with Bible verses on the latest secular psychology trends, the Christian community doesn't seem to come up with much that's original.

Even their science is simply a reaction to evolution. They aren't offering a coherent alternative system, just vague restructuring of current theories with the inevitable verses. They simply exist to fight the secular scientists, not to advance a true, comprehensive alternative system....unless the first few chapters of Genesis can be seen as such.

Remarkable claims require remarkable proof.

-Carl Sagan
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/24/2005 :  08:52:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Double-Blind was so much eaiser on day 0.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Randy
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USA
1990 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2005 :  20:04:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
Rah, rah, ree,
Kick him in the knee.
Rah, rah, rasp,
Kick him in the hole of the asp.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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bloody_peasant
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USA
139 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  07:01:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send bloody_peasant a Yahoo! Message Send bloody_peasant a Private Message
Noooo not the evil sinful hip movements or the evil exposed belly button.
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tomk80
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Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  07:26:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
Although I didn't expect to hear myself say it, I actually liked what I read at some points. For example, paying attention to good sportsmanship is something that I agree with very much.

Only the hip movements. No hip movements mean they will never be able to go salsa dancing, except when they turn into more moderate christians. No salsa dancing! After reading that I felt really very sorry for all conservative christians.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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woolytoad
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313 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:34:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

Although I didn't expect to hear myself say it, I actually liked what I read at some points. For example, paying attention to good sportsmanship is something that I agree with very much.


But this isn't exactly new or a Christian specific goal. If their values are compared to those of the secular organisations the differences would be:

- Hip movements
- Belly buttons
- Choice of music

Or the like. None of these makes anyone more spiritual.
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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2005 :  13:07:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
quote:
What Will They Think of Next?

Think?

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2005 :  13:10:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Randy

Rah, rah, ree,
Kick him in the knee.
Rah, rah, rasp,
Kick him in the hole of the asp.



rah, rah, ree
Kick em' in the knee
rah, rah, rass
Kick em' in the other knee.

Shift to the left
Shift to the right
Your whole team looks like
Shift to the left

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Starman
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Sweden
1613 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2005 :  00:43:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
Is it possible to dress the cheerleaders in burkhas?
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sweetmiracle
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USA
74 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2005 :  11:07:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sweetmiracle a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

Is it possible to dress the cheerleaders in burkhas?



Wouldn't that look like a bunch of black ghosts floating around on the fields??

But really, some men find burquas sexy...what about the lust aroused in those beasties, eh?

Why not just ban women at all public events, since men can become sexually excited by females in many situations...but then, some men are attracted to other men, so that's another problem.

Hey, let's just conduct all life over the internet! (No webcams, of course. Maybe no pictures at all. And filters to keep out impure language.) All mating will be arranged by the state religious board, based on birthdates and general health.

We are the priests of the Temples of Syrinx...all the gifts of life are held within our walls...

Remarkable claims require remarkable proof.

-Carl Sagan
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2005 :  12:07:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by sweetmiracle
Why not just ban women at all public events, since men can become sexually excited by females in many situations...but then, some men are attracted to other men, so that's another problem.

That's what the death-penalty is for... To clear out the gay-gene out of the gene-pool. Everyone knows that gay men fools women to have their babies in order to propogate their spices...


(important note to those who don't know irony when they read it: the statements in this post are meant as irony/sarcasm at those who think I was serious...)

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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trishran
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USA
196 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2005 :  22:49:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send trishran a Private Message
Faith-based cheerleading is just a continuation of the trend of Christians glomming onto polular culture - Christian rock and so forth. What they don't seem to *get* is that it's not just the form, but the content that speaks to people. Like, "OOh, the young kids are being seduced away from us by thumping beat, let's seduce them back."

I think this shows a real lack of integrity on the part of the Christians, reject the artist's message, but steal the part of their creative product that is the easiest to imitate. Why can't they come up with an original musical style, dance movement or literary conventions? Could it be --- Satan?

trish
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pleco
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USA
2998 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  07:27:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Apparently the prosletyzing chrisitans feel so threatened by modern western culture that, instead of showing the world the true form of their religion, they must adapt their religion to fit in the modern culture. Wouldn't one think that if the message is so powerful, life altering, and just plain good, that no transmogrification would be required? And since transmogrification is the preferred method, does that necessarily invalidate the message?

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  08:05:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
And in an added twist, USA Today is reporting that
quote:
the state House on Tuesday approved a bill to restrict "overtly sexually suggestive" cheerleading to more ladylike performances.
So from now on, really fit and attractive women in their late teens who wear skimpy skirts and midriff tops and who dance around before crowds made up of largely of, well, teen-age boys at a sports event aren't allowed to insert sexuality into their routine. Makes perfect sense.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  10:16:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
That will be a SCOTUS case in a few years.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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