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H. Humbert
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  10:42:48  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Ok, I read this article and thought the circumstances of the story would make a good mystery for the folks at SFN to sharpen their detective skills on. I'll just give you the main facts of the case. See if you can divine the cause.

Shortly before 6 o'clock AM, an Alaska woman was awoken by the a tremendous noise somewhere in her home. When she reached the living room she found glass from one end of the room to the other. "There was this huge fish carcass right where my dog usually slept," she said. "It didn't have a head. It was at least two feet long — just the back bone and the tail."

So the question is, "How did the fish get there?" There is one more clue, but I'm purposely leaving it out because otherwise it would be a dead giveaway. Look here to read the original article and answer.


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Edited by - H. Humbert on 06/15/2005 10:47:02

filthy
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  13:08:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I'd say that God done it, but hurling fishs is not really his style.

A through-the-window gift from an admirer, perhaps? I dunno -- have to give it a little more thought.


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pleco
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  18:47:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
A person caught the fish and killed it via decapitation, but they only owned a yugo, so they tried to tie it to the roof of the car. As they drove by this house, they took a curve at too high a speed. The fish slipped out and sailed into window of the house.

or ghosts...?

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:17:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Yes, this is tough for me as I know the answer. I believe one could reach the answer just from the details I provided, or a vague approximation, but it does require a little creative thinking.

I'll give one additional clue. This fish was a meal.


Edit: Damn, what's the forum code for hidden text again? I don't see it listed under "Forum Code."

"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 06/15/2005 20:07:19
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Dude
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:55:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Bears arguing over who gets to keep the fishy and break the window?

EIther that or a neighbor who didn't like the cold outdoors in alaska was trying to invent a grill that would toss a cooked fish through his kitchen window automatically.... and got his hydraulics a little over powered.


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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:57:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Yes, this is tough for me as I know the answer. I believe one could reach the answer just from the details I provided, or a vague approximation, but it does require a little creative thinking.

I'll give one additional clue. This fish was a meal.


Edit: Damn, what's the forum code for hidden text again? I don't see it listed under "Forum Code."


Perhaps the [spoiler] and [/spoiler]-tag?

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  20:08:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Perhaps the [spoiler] and [/spoiler]-tag?

Thanks, doc. I was trying [/hide] [/hidden] [/clear]. I just could not remember. Perhaps that's something that could be added into the forum code instructions link?


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 06/15/2005 20:08:49
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filthy
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  02:17:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
This, minus the fish, is not an uncommon occurance.

I peeked, but I'm not gonna tell....


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woolytoad
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  05:01:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
I agree with Dude. Bear.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  13:51:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by woolytoad

I agree with Dude. Bear.

Not a bear, but you two are in the ballpark.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  15:52:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Don't click the link if you don't want the answer: All Things Considered ruined this for me, in a teaser promo early in the show, even (had to wait almost an hour to hear the full thing).

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tw101356
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  16:11:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message
I already read about this on Fark.com, or maybe obscurestore.com a couple of days ago. Great story. Quite the "I simply didn't think of that" natural explanation.

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woolytoad
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  20:17:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
- We're in Alaska.
- Fish bones.
- Its a big fish - 2ft without the head.
- Glass all over the room
- Bear is in the ballpark so ... someone/thing ate the fish?

The fish was a salmon. The woman's home is a cabin built over a river with windows facing the length of the river. The cabin was accidentally built out of salmon mating season. Now that the salmon are mating they are jumping and some jumped at her windows breaking them. Her dog ate the fish?
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Dude
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  20:36:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
What predatory animals live in Alaska and eat salmon?

Bears were the first thing I thought of... salmon is a pretty big fish, so it would have to be a fairly powerfull predator.


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  20:47:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

What predatory animals live in Alaska and eat salmon?

Bears were the first thing I thought of... salmon is a pretty big fish, so it would have to be a fairly powerfull predator.



This is the right line of thinking. Now consider what filthy said, "This, minus the fish, is not an uncommon occurance."


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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woolytoad
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  21:10:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
Damn I liked my answer :)

Large Alaskan predator ... wolves? Do they eat fish though? I thought they were more of a deer caribou eater. So wolves eating fish is not common. I don't think large carnivores breaking windows is common at all.

Moose? Or some large deer type animal? Perhaps rummaging in the trash. A salmon carcass getting caught on its antlers. Antlers crash into windows in an attempt to get it off?
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