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Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Dude
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What the fuck are you talking about? So? I was trying to see how you guys think, and? Who the fuck are any of you, but the same as me, a human being capable of thought. Fuck that website. You people have some fucking nerve.
Somebody tell this moronic little infant that its time for him to find the door.
He has been given ample opportunity to engage in a civil discussion concerning some of his claims, and he has refused to do so. It seems he'd just rather sit back and insult everyone who points out his obvious ignorance to him.
He's just here looking for a fight. He doesn't have anything to contribute, and my bet is that he will just continue to become more and more offensive until the staff is forced to ban him.
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I bet you think I give a fuck right? As long as IU university says I know how the scientific process works, that is all that matters. Who gives a fuck what any of you think?
Obviously YOU care what we think. There is no other reason for your escalating hostility towards members of this forum. If you were truly apathetic about it, you'd just ignore criticism of your obvious ignorance. The fact that you are so worked up about it, and get more worked up everytime you respond to a post here, says that you do indeed care about what we think.
The invitation to a rational, and civil, discussion concerning the ToE is still open. Head over to the creation/evolution folder, you know the thread. Or, you can continue to melt down until you get kicked. Up to you.
I am not worried about being kicked out, oh no! there are a million sites like these, and the people there are not getting any smarter.
I am sorry for whatever you may think, but the hostility was towards me first, and if you think it was anyway else, then I don't want to be here anyway. But I will take up your challenge on some conditions: No smart comments, if you have something to say, or an opposite opinion, than present the information, and keep all smart ass comments to yourself. I present information that I think is valid, and I will try to keep the sources as professional as possible, but you can't have your way completely. YOu cannot govern the human mind, and therefore do not try and govern my thinking. Also, since its just me, I have to take on all of you, which I actually like, but it will take me longer to present things. But I am serious, any smart talking, and I am snapping off and we will be back at square one. I also ask lots of questions, just to see what type of thinking I am dealing with, and what info you may or may not know. Is this okay?
As a moderator on this site, I can honestly say that we have only booted one person. If you so disagree with our mission and cannot support your claims, I would suggest such discussion fora such as Rapture Ready may be more ameniable to your style of arguementation.
Perhaps you need to step back and take a breath. So far the other posters have requested you back up your assertations. You have responded with condescention and hand-waving. Try engaging your opponents with sources and facts, not conjecture and demands that we take conjecture seriously.
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SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 08:59:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
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I also ask lots of questions, just to see what type of thinking I am dealing with, and what info you may or may not know. Is this okay?
Just go over to the thread and start. I'll ask Dave_W to strictly moderate. There will be no insulting, derogatory, or inflamatory remarks by anyone, and if they show up, they'll get deleted by the mods.
Just start off with a single point, explain it and reference sources (doesn't have to be web links, can be text material if you like) for evidence and claims. Simple.
Sounds reasonable enough to me. If I get involved, I'll promise to behave.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:00:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by Dude
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I also ask lots of questions, just to see what type of thinking I am dealing with, and what info you may or may not know. Is this okay?
Just go over to the thread and start. I'll ask Dave_W to strictly moderate. There will be no insulting, derogatory, or inflamatory remarks by anyone, and if they show up, they'll get deleted by the mods.
Just start off with a single point, explain it and reference sources (doesn't have to be web links, can be text material if you like) for evidence and claims. Simple.
Sounds reasonable enough to me. If I get involved, I'll promise to behave.
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:03:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Dude
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What the fuck are you talking about? So? I was trying to see how you guys think, and? Who the fuck are any of you, but the same as me, a human being capable of thought. Fuck that website. You people have some fucking nerve.
Somebody tell this moronic little infant that its time for him to find the door.
He has been given ample opportunity to engage in a civil discussion concerning some of his claims, and he has refused to do so. It seems he'd just rather sit back and insult everyone who points out his obvious ignorance to him.
He's just here looking for a fight. He doesn't have anything to contribute, and my bet is that he will just continue to become more and more offensive until the staff is forced to ban him.
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I bet you think I give a fuck right? As long as IU university says I know how the scientific process works, that is all that matters. Who gives a fuck what any of you think?
Obviously YOU care what we think. There is no other reason for your escalating hostility towards members of this forum. If you were truly apathetic about it, you'd just ignore criticism of your obvious ignorance. The fact that you are so worked up about it, and get more worked up everytime you respond to a post here, says that you do indeed care about what we think.
The invitation to a rational, and civil, discussion concerning the ToE is still open. Head over to the creation/evolution folder, you know the thread. Or, you can continue to melt down until you get kicked. Up to you.
I am not worried about being kicked out, oh no! there are a million sites like these, and the people there are not getting any smarter.
I am sorry for whatever you may think, but the hostility was towards me first, and if you think it was anyway else, then I don't want to be here anyway. But I will take up your challenge on some conditions: No smart comments, if you have something to say, or an opposite opinion, than present the information, and keep all smart ass comments to yourself. I present information that I think is valid, and I will try to keep the sources as professional as possible, but you can't have your way completely. YOu cannot govern the human mind, and therefore do not try and govern my thinking. Also, since its just me, I have to take on all of you, which I actually like, but it will take me longer to present things. But I am serious, any smart talking, and I am snapping off and we will be back at square one. I also ask lots of questions, just to see what type of thinking I am dealing with, and what info you may or may not know. Is this okay?
As a moderator on this site, I can honestly say that we have only booted one person. If you so disagree with our mission and cannot support your claims, I would suggest such discussion fora such as Rapture Ready may be more ameniable to your style of arguementation.
Perhaps you need to step back and take a breath. So far the other posters have requested you back up your assertations. You have responded with condescention and hand-waving. Try engaging your opponents with sources and facts, not conjecture and demands that we take conjecture seriously.
I understand where you are coming from, but if you think that I have not been messed with, then I think you are wrong. I have been insulted big time, and I will stop it, when the others stop. I can respect anyone who respects me. You came at me correctly, and I can appreciate that. But the rest of this needs to stop. |
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SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:04:04 [Permalink]
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I know squat about golf, even though as a kid, I worked for a country club, so clear something up for me, Val. Whaddafork is a mulligan?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:04:40 [Permalink]
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Hybrid:
Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick. I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from. And that to me is an asshole.
Official warning number one:
Hybrid, this kind of attack is a violation of the rules of this forum that you agreed to when you registered. I have not deleted it however. Next time I will. In case you haven't noticed we give a great deal of latitude to posters on our site. But this post is way over the line. Make your points, fine. But please reframe from ad hominem attacks that do nothing to further the discussion and only serve to antagonize. If you feel that you can not make your points without resorting to verbal abuse, perhaps this is not the place for you…
Kil now takes off his administrators warning hat and hopes he does not have to put it on again anytime soon…
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:06:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Hybrid:
Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick. I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from. And that to me is an asshole.
Official warning number one:
Hybrid, this kind of attack is a violation of the rules of this forum that you agreed to when you registered. I have not deleted it however. Next time I will. In case you haven't noticed we give a great deal of latitude to posters on our site. But this post is way over the line. Make your points, fine. But please reframe from ad hominem attacks that do nothing to further the discussion and only serve to antagonize. If you feel that you can not make your points without resorting to verbal abuse, perhaps this is not the place for you…
Kil now takes off his administrators warning hat and hopes he does not have to put it on again anytime soon…
That is all fine and dandy, hate to see that you had to take your hat off . The point is, you need to check the rest of your people. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:09:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
I know squat about golf, even though as a kid, I worked for a country club, so clear something up for me, Val. Whaddafork is a mulligan?
A mulligan is where you hit your tee shot so badly that the other players allow you to start over with no stroke penalty. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:12:45 [Permalink]
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That is all fine and dandy, hate to see that you had to take your hat off. The point is, you need to check the rest of your people.
Yeah, right.
Now, are you going to go to Dude's thread and have a reasonable and thoughtful discussion, or you going to stay here and remain foolish?
'S up to you, bro.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:14:18 [Permalink]
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A mulligan is where you hit your tee shot so badly that the other players allow you to start over with no stroke penalty.
Ah. Most generous. Thanks!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:16:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by filthy
I know squat about golf, even though as a kid, I worked for a country club, so clear something up for me, Val. Whaddafork is a mulligan?
A mulligan is where you hit your tee shot so badly that the other players allow you to start over with no stroke penalty.
I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:16:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Kil
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Hybrid:
Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick. I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from. And that to me is an asshole.
Official warning number one:
Hybrid, this kind of attack is a violation of the rules of this forum that you agreed to when you registered. I have not deleted it however. Next time I will. In case you haven't noticed we give a great deal of latitude to posters on our site. But this post is way over the line. Make your points, fine. But please reframe from ad hominem attacks that do nothing to further the discussion and only serve to antagonize. If you feel that you can not make your points without resorting to verbal abuse, perhaps this is not the place for you…
Kil now takes off his administrators warning hat and hopes he does not have to put it on again anytime soon…
That is all fine and dandy, hate to see that you had to take your hat off. The point is, you need to check the rest of your people.
I do! I can not find anything that comes even close to the kind of attack you made in the above quote. If you can find any, let me know about it. We try to moderate with an even hand... |
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:19:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Kil
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Hybrid:
Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick. I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from. And that to me is an asshole.
Official warning number one:
Hybrid, this kind of attack is a violation of the rules of this forum that you agreed to when you registered. I have not deleted it however. Next time I will. In case you haven't noticed we give a great deal of latitude to posters on our site. But this post is way over the line. Make your points, fine. But please reframe from ad hominem attacks that do nothing to further the discussion and only serve to antagonize. If you feel that you can not make your points without resorting to verbal abuse, perhaps this is not the place for you…
Kil now takes off his administrators warning hat and hopes he does not have to put it on again anytime soon…
That is all fine and dandy, hate to see that you had to take your hat off. The point is, you need to check the rest of your people.
I do! I can not find anything that comes even close to the kind of attack you made in the above quote. If you can find any, let me know about it. We try to moderate with an even hand...
You were right, I was a little out of line, but when someone comes out and tells you that you are coming up with "bullshit", a word used toward me more than once, check back, I get pissed. And "delusional" isn't very respectable either. You don't have to used explicit words to insult someone on a much higher level, you know? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:26:36 [Permalink]
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I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
Indeed.
I believe that where the problem lies is in that you post without thinking. And that you have entered a forum where the denizens actually like to do research. I do a little every day in my specality. I have to in order to keep up with the latest thought and field projects (and I have one of my own that I will get back to late this summer).
Go to Dude's thread, but don't post right away. Invest a little time exploring this site. In that way, you will learn about us and where we are coming from. Research is the be all, end all of slepticism.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 09:48:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by filthy
I know squat about golf, even though as a kid, I worked for a country club, so clear something up for me, Val. Whaddafork is a mulligan?
A mulligan is where you hit your tee shot so badly that the other players allow you to start over with no stroke penalty.
I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
You teed off with condescention. I was using a metaphor. What are the schools teaching about language these days?
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