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I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
Indeed.
I believe that where the problem lies is in that you post without thinking. And that you have entered a forum where the denizens actually like to do research. I do a little every day in my specality. I have to in order to keep up with the latest thought and field projects (and I have one of my own that I will get back to late this summer).
Go to Dude's thread, but don't post right away. Invest a little time exploring this site. In that way, you will learn about us and where we are coming from. Research is the be all, end all of slepticism.
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 10:23:16 [Permalink]
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I know squat about golf, even though as a kid, I worked for a country club, so clear something up for me, Val. Whaddafork is a mulligan?
A mulligan is where you hit your tee shot so badly that the other s bogus.Anything that tells you what to think or feel, even if it is on a positive level can still be indoctrinationplayers allow you to start over with no stroke penalty.
I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
You teed off with condescention. I was using a metaphor. What are the schools teaching about language these days?
I don't believe religion is bogus. I believe the application of religious administration is bogus.
Well I believe religion is bogus. Anything that tells you how you should think or feel, even if it is on a positive level can still indoctrinate you and imprison your mind. |
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 10:37:48 [Permalink]
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Well I believe religion is bogus. Anything that tells you how you should think or feel, even if it is on a positive level can still indoctrinate you and imprison your mind.
So where exactly did you come up with your way of thinking and feeling? All on your own?
Are your parents bogus?
Are your genetics bogus?
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 10:45:56 [Permalink]
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Well I believe religion is bogus. Anything that tells you how you should think or feel, even if it is on a positive level can still indoctrinate you and imprison your mind.
So where exactly did you come up with your way of thinking and feeling? All on your own?
Are your parents bogus?
Are your genetics bogus?
Or maybe you are one of the CLEAR people?
What are you talking about?I try to think and feel as free as I possibly can, and keep my intentions positive. I am not clear at all, obviously, because If I were there would not be the friction that has occurred. My parents are just regular people like everyone else. Genetics bogus...Man please, I'm not even addressing that one! |
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 10:48:40 [Permalink]
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| Your parents instruct you as a child on how to think and feel, which influences you for your entire life. Your genetics predisposes you on how to think and feel. You said "anything that tells you...." so I was wondering what you meant by this. That's all. Perhaps you just meant human institutions. |
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 11:11:13 [Permalink]
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Your parents instruct you as a child on how to think and feel, which influences you for your entire life. Your genetics predisposes you on how to think and feel. You said "anything that tells you...." so I was wondering what you meant by this. That's all. Perhaps you just meant human institutions.
Oh, I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. This is VERY correct. Your parents influence you big time, and can ultimately influence genrations to come. With genetics do you mean collective unconscious or archetypes or something like that, passed down through dna, is this what you mean? |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 12:18:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
The real disconnect between HYBRID and the rest of the posters here is that of philosophy.
While HYBRID is a post-modernist, possibly New Age, SFN-members are mostly scientific-minded. It is obviously the source of the frustration. I wonder if the chasm can be bridged.
New Age? You don't know me, or what I think, you assume,
I didn't assume, I made a conjecture about you being New Age. But I did correctly identify you as a post-modernist, which is the important position in the analysis of the chasm between you and us.quote:
and therefore you make an ass out of u! Quit with the psycho bable, oh hybrid, he's so frustrated, he so angry, he does not understand science.
Them why are you resorting to foul language? This is usually the response of someone who's lost his temper.
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Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick.
Abusive language toward a forum moderator is also a sign of someone who's lost his cool.
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I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from.
I have no idea where you're coming from, because you have chosen to withhold everything from us. The only we have to go on is the basic post-modernist claims that everyone creates their own reality. We don't agree with that.
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 12:27:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
The real disconnect between HYBRID and the rest of the posters here is that of philosophy.
While HYBRID is a post-modernist, possibly New Age, SFN-members are mostly scientific-minded. It is obviously the source of the frustration. I wonder if the chasm can be bridged.
New Age? You don't know me, or what I think, you assume,
I didn't assume, I made a conjecture about you being New Age. But I did correctly identify you as a post-modernist, which is the important position in the analysis of the chasm between you and us.quote:
and therefore you make an ass out of u! Quit with the psycho bable, oh hybrid, he's so frustrated, he so angry, he does not understand science.
Them why are you resorting to foul language? This is usually the response of someone who's lost his temper.
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Well then, since you seem to an arrogant asshole, go fuck yourself with an elephant dick.
Abusive language toward a forum moderator is also a sign of someone who's lost his cool.
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I hate to go this route, but we could never have any type of real convo, when you critize everything, and you have no, 0 idea where I am comming from.
I have no idea where you're coming from, because you have chosen to withhold everything from us. The only we have to go on is the basic post-modernist claims that everyone creates their own reality. We don't agree with that.
Okay, I can see how what I say seems vague, on the one hand. But on the other hand, I am asking people to quesion a lot of things, and to engage in some serious thinking, and according to the 1700 some odd views, that is happening. Saying I am a particular way, like a "post-modernist" puts or suggest I only thnk within those guidelines of that, and this sir is just not true. |
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 12:36:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
Indeed.
I believe that where the problem lies is in that you post without thinking. And that you have entered a forum where the denizens actually like to do research. I do a little every day in my specality. I have to in order to keep up with the latest thought and field projects (and I have one of my own that I will get back to late this summer).
Go to Dude's thread, but don't post right away. Invest a little time exploring this site. In that way, you will learn about us and where we are coming from. Research is the be all, end all of slepticism.
How about you forget that I exist, I have forgotten you exist, its that simple. You won't get an iota more of my time or energy on any level.
Okey-dokey. But I should tell you; my heart is broken. How ever will I recover from this devestating rejection?
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 12:40:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by filthy
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I did not hit anything badly. Communication is a problem for us, because we really don't have a common meeting ground (an area that we can both agree on, other than religion is just bogus). I think we can find one, maybe?We just come from two ends of the spectrum, each of us hoping for a positive outcome.
Indeed.
I believe that where the problem lies is in that you post without thinking. And that you have entered a forum where the denizens actually like to do research. I do a little every day in my specality. I have to in order to keep up with the latest thought and field projects (and I have one of my own that I will get back to late this summer).
Go to Dude's thread, but don't post right away. Invest a little time exploring this site. In that way, you will learn about us and where we are coming from. Research is the be all, end all of slepticism.
How about you forget that I exist, I have forgotten you exist, its that simple. You won't get an iota more of my time or energy on any level.
Okey-dokey. But I should tell you; my heart is broken. How ever will I recover from this devestating rejection?
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Hawks
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 14:16:33 [Permalink]
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HYBRID, you've stated in the last few posts that you demand respect and also that you don't care what anyone thinks of you. Which is it?
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Come on now, lets get it right einstein! Respect is something required as one human to the next. Everybody has an opinion that should be respected. Now I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks, but don't jump on me calling me this that and the other trying to build yourself off of TRYING to break me and my thoughts down, that is damn near fascist! Respect is something you give when you get it in return, no matter what your opinion is!
I'm prepared to respect someone even before they respect me. In fact, I never disrespect anyone a priori. This does not mean that I will give respect to anyone, however, no matter what their opinions are. Everyones opinion should NOT be respected. I, for one, have no respect for holocaust deniers. I have no respect for people who knowingly set off bombs near children (or anyone for that matter). I have no respect for people who, when asked perfectly valid questions, reply with insults. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 14:23:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
Your parents instruct you as a child on how to think and feel, which influences you for your entire life. Your genetics predisposes you on how to think and feel. You said "anything that tells you...." so I was wondering what you meant by this. That's all. Perhaps you just meant human institutions.
Oh, I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. This is VERY correct. Your parents influence you big time, and can ultimately influence genrations to come. With genetics do you mean collective unconscious or archetypes or something like that, passed down through dna, is this what you mean?
See there?
I offered you to name the instances from the beginning of the thread, there you thought you were attacked, that we might sort out misunderstandings. Instead you took the easy way out using abusive language and playing the persecution card. There are ways for you to increase our respect for you, and you went the opposite direction.
At least this time you were level-headed and asked pleco what he meant, and that is a great step forward in normalising communications with us.
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Saying I am a particular way, like a "post-modernist" puts or suggest I only thnk within those guidelines of that, and this sir is just not true.
Post-modernism don't have much of boundries, but what you have stated is part of the core idea of post-modernism. It's not that there are guidelines that it requires you to follow.
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 15:05:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by pleco
Your parents instruct you as a child on how to think and feel, which influences you for your entire life. Your genetics predisposes you on how to think and feel. You said "anything that tells you...." so I was wondering what you meant by this. That's all. Perhaps you just meant human institutions.
Oh, I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. This is VERY correct. Your parents influence you big time, and can ultimately influence genrations to come. With genetics do you mean collective unconscious or archetypes or something like that, passed down through dna, is this what you mean?
See there?
I offered you to name the instances from the beginning of the thread, there you thought you were attacked, that we might sort out misunderstandings. Instead you took the easy way out using abusive language and playing the persecution card. There are ways for you to increase our respect for you, and you went the opposite direction.
At least this time you were level-headed and asked pleco what he meant, and that is a great step forward in normalising communications with us.
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Saying I am a particular way, like a "post-modernist" puts or suggest I only thnk within those guidelines of that, and this sir is just not true.
Post-modernism don't have much of boundries, but what you have stated is part of the core idea of post-modernism. It's not that there are guidelines that it requires you to follow.
I am still unconvinced that you know that much about the scientific process though, since you never answered the question I posed.
I want you to know that I had to write papers about certain fossils in a class about human evolution, strictly on the physical evidence, and I got A's. So I know how the process works. What quesion?I have to go to the store real fast, but I will be back, so you guys can have someone you think you can pick on. |
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 18:33:38 [Permalink]
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I want you to know that I had to write papers about certain fossils in a class about human evolution, strictly on the physical evidence, and I got A's.
You wouldn't happen to have those papers lying around somewhere so that we can have a look at them? |
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