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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 07/14/2005 : 17:57:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
An A$$&^%*:Definition;
This Guy!
Everything GeeMac wrote makes sense.
And HYBRID, I can't ignore the fact that you continously choose to interpret almost everything we write as antagonistic, even attempts to reconsile and/or explain things we have written that you obviously have misunderstood. Some of the SFN-members have shown remarkable patience toward you and you have been insulting in return.
Valiant Dancer is right, it absolutely looks like you came here expecting to be treated badly, and have made it a self-fulfilling prophecy by being obnoxious and antagonistic. |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 07/14/2005 : 18:13:51 [Permalink]
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Wait a minute, who do you think you are? YOu think that all of the things , from a university and not, that I get my info from, that you can just have me post(which is too much info to even try and post!) it so you can analyze it, and then determine whether it is appropriate or not. Who are you?
I am Hawks. I think it's fair enough (in my mind) to ask to see these papers. You yourself thought that it was important that you got an A, and so obviously these papers must have importance. Does this one paper I asked for really contain too much info to post? But, if you don't want to post them, then fine. I am Hawks.
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Why do you think you can do this, and further more, do you think you could even influence me at this point.
I don't think that anyone here have thought, for the last hundreds of posts, that they can influence you.
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This has been three days of this, do you really think that I would allow you to. YOu are not aristotle, or einstein. You are a regular bloke, just like me. You are not any more valid than I am. Contrary to what you think, which I could care less,I am of sound mind. And you are not worthy of jugding whether all of my info is this or that. This is your problem. You are to busy trying to debunk everything, and not give it any serious thought, because guess what, you guys know everything, and this is the first sign that you do.
Is there a difference between Aristotle and the ilk and us, but no difference between you and me? Weren't they regular blokes? How do you know that I am a regular bloke?
I can assure you that no-one here thinks that they know everything. Over a beer, a few of us would probably argue that we know nothing.
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Quit trying to treat me like some kid. I have done my homework, and you will not break me down with tactics like these. I haven't even pointed out what I think is or isn't, but you(guys in general, not necessarily you) are constantly telling me that I am wrong. You don't even know what is really in my head, or how long I have been doing my homework, you just assume. And you know what happens when you assume, don't you?
I'm sure you have been doing your homework. Heck, you even got an A. But you do realise, don't you, that like the rest of us, you can sometimes be wrong? When do you consider yourself to be wrong? |
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 14:41:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
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Wait a minute, who do you think you are? YOu think that all of the things , from a university and not, that I get my info from, that you can just have me post(which is too much info to even try and post!) it so you can analyze it, and then determine whether it is appropriate or not. Who are you?
I am Hawks. I think it's fair enough (in my mind) to ask to see these papers. You yourself thought that it was important that you got an A, and so obviously these papers must have importance. Does this one paper I asked for really contain too much info to post? But, if you don't want to post them, then fine. I am Hawks.
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Why do you think you can do this, and further more, do you think you could even influence me at this point.
I don't think that anyone here have thought, for the last hundreds of posts, that they can influence you.
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This has been three days of this, do you really think that I would allow you to. YOu are not aristotle, or einstein. You are a regular bloke, just like me. You are not any more valid than I am. Contrary to what you think, which I could care less,I am of sound mind. And you are not worthy of jugding whether all of my info is this or that. This is your problem. You are to busy trying to debunk everything, and not give it any serious thought, because guess what, you guys know everything, and this is the first sign that you do.
Is there a difference between Aristotle and the ilk and us, but no difference between you and me? Weren't they regular blokes? How do you know that I am a regular bloke?
I can assure you that no-one here thinks that they know everything. Over a beer, a few of us would probably argue that we know nothing.
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Quit trying to treat me like some kid. I have done my homework, and you will not break me down with tactics like these. I haven't even pointed out what I think is or isn't, but you(guys in general, not necessarily you) are constantly telling me that I am wrong. You don't even know what is really in my head, or how long I have been doing my homework, you just assume. And you know what happens when you assume, don't you?
I'm sure you have been doing your homework. Heck, you even got an A. But you do realise, don't you, that like the rest of us, you can sometimes be wrong? When do you consider yourself to be wrong?
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 15:36:04 [Permalink]
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When do you?
That's very clever. Answering a question with a question. You know when I consider myself wrong. When the evidence says I'm wrong. Back to you. When do you consider yourself wrong? |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 16:12:17 [Permalink]
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Before anyone else tries it, I'm claiming victory in this thread, as well.
Damnit man! I head over here to claim victory, and Dave_W has beaten me to it again.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 16:12:46 [Permalink]
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Before anyone else tries it, I'm claiming victory in this thread, as well.
Darn. Well, at least my claim can be not to have lost. Because, as my brother constantly says: "I'm always right, and if I'm not right, then at least I'm not wrong".
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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26022 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:31:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
Damnit man! I head over here to claim victory, and Dave_W has beaten me to it again.
Sorry. Administrator's privilege.quote:
Originally posted by Hawks
Because, as my brother constantly says: "I'm always right, and if I'm not right, then at least I'm not wrong".
I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was mistaken.
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HYBRID
BANNED
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344 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 21:44:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
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When do you?
That's very clever. Answering a question with a question. You know when I consider myself wrong. When the evidence says I'm wrong. Back to you. When do you consider yourself wrong?
SO never then, because in YOUR eyes, the evidence is ALWAYS right, especially for your point of view. SO what is your point? I consider myself worng when the evidence AND my intuitions together tell me I am wrong. |
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HYBRID
BANNED
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344 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 21:46:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by HYBRID
An A$$&^%*:Definition;
This Guy!
Everything GeeMac wrote makes sense.
And HYBRID, I can't ignore the fact that you continously choose to interpret almost everything we write as antagonistic, even attempts to reconsile and/or explain things we have written that you obviously have misunderstood. Some of the SFN-members have shown remarkable patience toward you and you have been insulting in return.
Valiant Dancer is right, it absolutely looks like you came here expecting to be treated badly, and have made it a self-fulfilling prophecy by being obnoxious and antagonistic.
You see to me, when someonse calls you delusional, it is the same as saying you are crazy, nut, or idiot or something, and when you say these things its kind of funny, because it reflects yourself ultimately. |
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 22:23:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
the evidence is ALWAYS right
That's a bit tautological.
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I consider myself worng when the evidence AND my intuitions together tell me I am wrong.
So really, you're the one who thinks they're never wrong. |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 23:18:11 [Permalink]
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Posted by Hybrid
The sources are COLLEGE PROFESSORS AND THE BOOKS FROM THE CLASSES, therefore in my head. What, are you going to order these books from the University?WHEN DID I EVER SAY ANYBODY SHOULD CONFORM OR BELIEVE ANYTHING! MY WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE THE OTHER POSSIBLITIES OUT THERE, AND TO THINK ABOUT THEM AND NOT BLOW THEM OF COMPLETELY BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. AND ALSO THAT SOME OF THESE THING HAVE VERY CREDIBLE PEOPLE INVOVLED WITH EVIDENCE. BUT EVIDENCE IS ALLSUBJECTIVE TO THE HUMAN MIND UNLESS PHYSICALLY FORCED. CAN YOU READ. GET OFF YOUR PRIDE AND EGO AND GO TO A NUETRAL SPOT. THAT IS IT!SKEPTICS OR NOT! WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS HERE WITH AN OPINION, AND THAT IS IT!
Hybrid, I usually don't have the patience for this garbage, so I'll simply add; If you cite college text books and university professors then present them. For instance, go to your old college text book, open it to the appropriate page and stick the damned thing in the copy machine or a flatbed scanner. If that's too difficult, give us a little bit of the info from the title page. If nothing else, what was the title and author. Someone here just may find it.
If you cite professors, point us toward their papers or publications, their schools or their areas of expertise. Better yet, point them toward this website, for crying out loud!
Finally, we do all have opinions, but most of us are able to defend our opinions and to illustrate how we arrived at them. That's what we'd like to get from you. What helped you to arrive at your conclusions? Please, give us the ability to experience the same material and the same instruction as you. Then, we'll all be on equal footing.
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HYBRID
BANNED
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344 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 08:25:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Tim
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Posted by Hybrid
The sources are COLLEGE PROFESSORS AND THE BOOKS FROM THE CLASSES, therefore in my head. What, are you going to order these books from the University?WHEN DID I EVER SAY ANYBODY SHOULD CONFORM OR BELIEVE ANYTHING! MY WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO GET PEOPLE TO SEE THE OTHER POSSIBLITIES OUT THERE, AND TO THINK ABOUT THEM AND NOT BLOW THEM OF COMPLETELY BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. AND ALSO THAT SOME OF THESE THING HAVE VERY CREDIBLE PEOPLE INVOVLED WITH EVIDENCE. BUT EVIDENCE IS ALLSUBJECTIVE TO THE HUMAN MIND UNLESS PHYSICALLY FORCED. CAN YOU READ. GET OFF YOUR PRIDE AND EGO AND GO TO A NUETRAL SPOT. THAT IS IT!SKEPTICS OR NOT! WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS HERE WITH AN OPINION, AND THAT IS IT!
Hybrid, I usually don't have the patience for this garbage, so I'll simply add; If you cite college text books and university professors then present them. For instance, go to your old college text book, open it to the appropriate page and stick the damned thing in the copy machine or a flatbed scanner. If that's too difficult, give us a little bit of the info from the title page. If nothing else, what was the title and author. Someone here just may find it.
If you cite professors, point us toward their papers or publications, their schools or their areas of expertise. Better yet, point them toward this website, for crying out loud!
Finally, we do all have opinions, but most of us are able to defend our opinions and to illustrate how we arrived at them. That's what we'd like to get from you. What helped you to arrive at your conclusions? Please, give us the ability to experience the same material and the same instruction as you. Then, we'll all be on equal footing.
It's really not that difficult!
You know what, just because you have george bush as your avatar, I am going to ignore you.... |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 09:02:35 [Permalink]
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Hybid:
WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS HERE WITH AN OPINION, AND THAT IS IT!
All opinions are not equal. In fact, some people hold opinions that are simply and demonstrably wrong. Those are usually the people who just ignore the opposition's objections or call them stupid and not worth the time to explain why their own opinion has merit. Some people can't be wrong, and when cornered they lash out with ad hominem attacks. Some people are too lazy to defend what they think and again, rather than defend they lash out. Some people are walking demonstrations of logical fallacies, and don't care because they have no intention of learning how to argue a point. Some people are so insecure that they feel insulted when anyone at all does not agree with them. Some people claim victory because they see victory as the only option. Some people…
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HYBRID
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 09:06:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Hybid:
WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS HERE WITH AN OPINION, AND THAT IS IT!
All opinions are not equal. In fact, some people hold opinions that are simply and demonstrably wrong. Those are usually the people who just ignore the opposition's objections or call them stupid and not worth the time to explain why their own opinion has merit. Some people can't be wrong, and when cornered they lash out with ad hominem attacks. Some people are too lazy to defend what they think and again, rather than defend they lash out. Some people are walking demonstrations of logical fallacies, and don't care because they have no intention of learning how to argue a point. Some people are so insecure that they feel insulted when anyone at all does not agree with them. Some people claim victory because they see victory as the only option. Some people…
That was pretty weak man. |
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