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BigPapaSmurf
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 Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:40:56 [Permalink]
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Also I was reading about the establiment of the mystery schools in Atlantis, quite fascinating really hybrid.
Its just a bunch of neo-pagan quasi-reconstructionist hogwash. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:45:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
First of all, The royal Court of the dragon, which still exists, started by at least 2500 b.c.Mithraism, at least 3500 b.c.I love the way you guys chop up what I say to mean whatever the hell you want, just because you quote me out of context, you guys should work for
the media!
But Its like this, If I come up with some info I have gotten from school, you "professors" will tell me either I am wrong or my professors are wrong. Now why would I address people ignorant enough to say something like this? You will just post a website, which anyone can post, and say see your schooling is all wrong.Hmm. should I listen to you guys, a website, or a college professor?It is a no brainer folks!
And I know that college professors are human and can make mistakes, but if that's the case, then how is any info worthy.So, because you know everything, and YOU have never heard of mystery schools being that old, they don't exist or they only exist in your mind the way you want them, real scientific.
Well, this is a start. But first, I want to note that you're being particularly defensive even when I've gone to some trouble not to take an antagonistic stance to your assertions. So, for instance, you write "So, because you know everything, and YOU have never heard of mystery schools being that old, they don't exist," but I certainly never said or even implied that sentiment. Indeed, I quite agree that a thing's existance isn't contigent upon my having heard of it. However, the converse is quite true as well-- your mentioning a thing does not mean that thing exists!
But this is a start.
Now, to your points. Sort of. I say sort of because I still don't know what a "mystery school" is. I guess it isn't clear what I want, so I'm going to try a new approach. Below, I'm going to make up an answer to my question. The content of this answer is, for our purposes, irrelevant. Rather, it's the format I want you to concentrate on. When I ask "what is a 'mystery school'?" I'm thinking that you'll reply with something like this:quote:
Mystery schools were secret societies designed to groom the children to wealthy political elites so that when they came of age, they could seamlessly slip into positions of power. The first school was founded in 3000 BC in Rome by Fakus Namus, a wealthy Consul under Maximus Madeupus. The earliest reference to them is in the Codex Imaginarious (here is a picture and discussion), now housed in the Vatican's collection.
Ideally, you'd go on explaining more about these schools, where they formed, who formed them, what they do, and so on.
Is this more clear? It would really help me in understanding what it is you're talking about! |
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HYBRID
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:45:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by HYBRID
Can I insult people back?
You have been insulting people. You have received no official sanction for simple insults.
And as an administrator here, my advice to you would be to not ignore the moderator of this folder.
Your probably right! |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:48:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
I said this, and! My mentors happen to be professors, and others who have graduated college who I respect. What I meant was that the further you go back into history, the less realiable conventional history becomes, is that better?No, I don't think that all history is bullshit, just a lot of it. Did I clear this up?
I'm not sure I follow you. What do you mean by "conventional history"? When you suggest that lots of history is bullshit, what do you mean? That there really were no Egyptians? Or that most of what we hear about Egyptians is incorrect? Are historians incorrect in their interpretation, or are the data themselves incorrect? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:49:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
Our presidents grandfather was arrested for helping fund hitler...
I can't find any confirmation of this on my own. Would you point me to a resource which gives the details of Prescott Bush's arrest, please? |
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HYBRID
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:55:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I'd like to mention that we have been waiting for months for you to name the actual courses, the university where they were given and the instructors, not to mention a definition for the term "mystery schools"
Would you agree with this?
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A Mystery school is a university of the soul, a school for the study of the mysteries of the inner nature of man and of surrounding nature. By understanding these mysteries, the student perceives his intimate relationship with divinity, and strives through self-discipline and devotion to become at one with his inner god.
If so I dont know of any schools which are legit that would try this crap.
Further hilarious reading,
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The physicist cannot point to the physical atom, yet he knows it exists as the basis, the foundation, of all matter; the student of theosophy cannot show you a Mystery school, yet he knows it exists as the heart or atomic center of the spiritual and intellectual life of the planet. Who then would dare assert the non- existence of the Mysteries, of this potent atom of esotericism, when luminous traces of spiritual power are seen scattered all over the world?
Take a number behind the other 100,000 spiritual groups which have it all figured out.
You see, this is where you fucked up! I gave some of the classes. Dr. Deborah Dyllianis is one professor I had, But no, I am not about to give you a list of my professors! Why don't I just give you my address and phone number so you can call me, mayber theirs? Get the fuck out of here! All you need to know are the classes I have taken, and the universities I have attended.
Do you really think I feel that you are important enough, or this site important enought to sit here and type all that info when I know its true, just because you are on an ego trip?!
There are many mystery schools, and they have differnt levels of knowledge of what the mysteries are. Tryint to generalize them as all having the EXACT same everything is another generalized assumption that you guys like to do so well! That's like saying all religions believe the same things, just because they are religions, but the specifics are the same, and this is just an example, because I do not agree or conform to any religion!
Part of what you said about mystery schools is true, but don't you think that it is vague statement and could mean many things, and you calling it 'hilarious' is just a jackass way of generalizing it even more? |
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HYBRID
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 10:00:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Also I was reading about the establiment of the mystery schools in Atlantis, quite fascinating really hybrid.
Its just a bunch of neo-pagan quasi-reconstructionist hogwash.
"its just a bunch of..." You guys kill me, with your generalizaions of EVERYTHING. You are so brainwashed by the dictation of what is accepted by society, that you don't even exist, you are someone else!Your life is someone else's! Programmed to live someone else's idea of what life is supposed to be like over and over again without question. All of this is really funny!
I'm not a pagan. You know, the shit you are saying to me, is like how people would condemn witches and such. "Oh he's just a this, or that". Give me a break! |
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pleco
SFN Addict
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 10:08:50 [Permalink]
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Turn that phrase on yourself....everything you just said applies to you. You generalize everything as conspiracy. You are brainwashed by conspiracy. You are possibly brainwashed by your mentors/professors and the media/literature you read because you want SO BADLY to believe that there is something greater than all of us out there...so badly that you would believe any "theory" that comes along that appeases this wish...close to a religious belief (accepted on faith than reason.)
And, trust me, it is REALLY FUNNY to us.
One thing, why are you still here? You just like thinking you are persecuted, because in your mind that makes you right and your persecutors wrong? You have made your statements, we have replied, you didn't like it...so why are you here? To hammer your version of the truth at us? You are wasting yours and our time unless you come up with real arguements and real evidence.
You will say that you have and that we are ignoring your evidence, etc etc. Fine, so be it. If you realize the futility in conversing here, move on. Call us arrogant, stupid, brainwashed, whatever. Say to yourself that you won, you know what's going on, whatever. In the end, what has been said here will remain for any visitor to come by, read, and eventually to make up their own minds.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 10:14:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by HYBRID
First things first, I am still waiting for the skeptics to debunk this info: http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4828
Our presidents grandfather was arrested for helping fund hitler, and no one has said one word about it. A new world order is a FACT, and no one said anything about. George H.W. Bush announced the new world order (this is only info from ONE of the sites I posted!!!) and everyone is quite, when this was not supposed to exist. Somebody, anybody?
This has been responded to. You just ignored it.
Oh yeah, when?
I responded yesterday. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 10:15:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Also I was reading about the establiment of the mystery schools in Atlantis, quite fascinating really hybrid.
Its just a bunch of neo-pagan quasi-reconstructionist hogwash.
Hey! Hey! Hey!!!
Watch the neo-pagan stuff.
Not all neo-pagans believe that crap. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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HYBRID
BANNED
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 11:53:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Also I was reading about the establiment of the mystery schools in Atlantis, quite fascinating really hybrid.
Its just a bunch of neo-pagan quasi-reconstructionist hogwash.
Hey! Hey! Hey!!!
Watch the neo-pagan stuff.
Not all neo-pagans believe that crap.
Who are you? Don't speak for neo pagans! They don't want you! Crap, that's funny! |
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HYBRID
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Fripp
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 12:13:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HYBRID[/i]
Our presidents grandfather was arrested for helping fund hitler...
Admittedly I only spent about five minutes looking through those links...
The second one (the yahoo one) was a broken link. The Third one dealt with Thyssen. I saw no mention of Prescott bush. The fifth one was too long for me to sift through it carefully.
The first and the fourth ones mentioned Prescott Bush's relationship with the Nazis, but I saw NO reference to Prescott having been arrested for that relationship. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 12:13:36 [Permalink]
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| The Yahoo page gives a 404 error, fyi. |
by Filthy
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