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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 07/13/2005 :  15:42:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
DO you have any ideas that i studied mystery schools in a COLLEGE INSTITUTION? DO you know there symbols, beliefs creeds?Probably not, but go ahead and tell me some more stuff that is not true, because you are obviously and expert. Oh great one.
I apologize for jumping in late here, but what class, exactly, is it that teaches "mystery schools"?
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  15:45:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
I have taken courses in which we researched some very powerful mystery schools, their beliefs and some of their symbols. One of these mystery schools that existed as far back as 3000 b.c., used the same symbols as THIS branch of the illuminati, Bavarian.
Again, I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with this discussion as well as I'd usually do. However, could you elaborate some on the "as far back as 3000 b.c." thing? What can you trace back that far?
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tw101356
Skeptic Friend

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  16:24:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

You call that being sensitive. Yeah right. I have had my own thoughts and research which lead to some of the things icke and many others have described, before I ever heard of him.


Can you be more specific here? Can you describe one such thing so that we may discuss it.
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But guess where a lot of my info comes from, college! It is amazing what you learn when you actually have an open mind.


Can you be specific about this info?
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But I see that this conversation will go no where. SO let's do us both a favor and end it.


You're not holding much of a conversation. You make some vague generalizations but you present no specifics that we can discuss.
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No matter what evidence I present, there is no nwo, no secret societies, no global maniputlation, even thought the perps have left a trail a mile long for a long time and pretty much boasted of the things they are doing.


You have come to this conclusion without making any statements or presenting any evidence.
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This is a waiste of time I am afraid. You would not be able to understand the basics,


You do not know me, you have not had any signficant amount of communication with me, and you have not attempted to explain anything to me, therefore this is a false conclusion on your part.
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because we live in a fairy tale land where everyone loves everyone, the u.s. has the nicest best people in the world, and everything is random including mass genocides and atrocities(you figure it out) happen on a daily bases.


This is meaningless.
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I don't care what you think.


Then why are you bothering to post?

- TW
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  16:59:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pfretzschner

quote:
originally posted by HYBRID

fuck yourself with an elephant dick

Comments like this will get you nowhere.

Enough already!

You may think HYBRID acts like a clown, but there's no need to do likewise. As long as you do, he'll be able to claim even moral ground.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
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Trish
SFN Addict

USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  22:24:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
Yes, that is interesting because the heads of the christian church ARE illuminati. They use the same symbols etc.



To which particular Christian sect do you refer?

I dislike pushing, but which university was it where you studied and which course of study did you engage in?

...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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Trish
SFN Addict

USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  22:34:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
You think that this is all to the illuminati? And freemasons? Damn you are dumb, I keep trying to give you a little credit, but damn! Do you know what mystery schools are?Do you know that secret societies study the mysteries?DO you have any idea what they are? DO you have any ideas that i studied mystery schools in a COLLEGE INSTITUTION? DO you know there symbols, beliefs creeds?Probably not, but go ahead and tell me some more stuff that is not true, because you are obviously and expert. Oh great one.



I beg pardon? I'm uncertain as to how my commentary with regard to the definition of illuminati, instigates this particular response. I do not believe I mentioned the free masons. Granted my maternal grandfather was a mason, but I believe he was asked to leave or resign or whatever you want to call it, because my grandmother was Catholic and the children were being raised Catholic.

As for studying mystery schools in college, I suppose that would be along the lines of studying comparative religion. Studying a particular subject in university does not necessarily make said subject objectively true. It simply means that enough scholarship has been done in the field to make it a viable course of study offered.

I don't believe I claimed any particular knowledge with regard to the illuminati, I simply asked you to clarify your understanding of the definition you supplied. Your interpretation of that particular definition seemed to me faulty. I simply wanted to understand if you could see my particular interpretation of the definition and explain further your interpretation of the definition.

Well, after this, I'm not entirely certain that I wish to engage in further discussion with you.

...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  07:06:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Trish

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
Yes, that is interesting because the heads of the christian church ARE illuminati. They use the same symbols etc.



To which particular Christian sect do you refer?

I dislike pushing, but which university was it where you studied and which course of study did you engage in?



In a previous post in this thread he said he attended Indiana University in Bloomington. What I would ask is which one of the History majors he was persuing.

History
History of Art
History, Philosophy, and Comparative Education
History & Philosophy of Science

All of these are offered at his Alma Matter.

http://www.iub.edu/


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  07:15:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
DO you have any ideas that i studied mystery schools in a COLLEGE INSTITUTION? DO you know there symbols, beliefs creeds?Probably not, but go ahead and tell me some more stuff that is not true, because you are obviously and expert. Oh great one.
I apologize for jumping in late here, but what class, exactly, is it that teaches "mystery schools"?



I'm betting it's the 300 or 500 level course on Cultural History of Astrology.

http://www.indiana.edu/~deanfac/blfal04/hpsc/

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  07:57:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Why does a course at IU make you an authority on anything? If im not mistaken most of us have also attended a COLLEGE INSTITUTION, and are therefor qualified to intrepret your complicated ideas.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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pleco
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USA
2998 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  08:05:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Why does a course at IU make you an authority on anything? If im not mistaken most of us have also attended a COLLEGE INSTITUTION, and are therefor qualified to intrepret your complicated ideas.



I was thinking the same thing. What difference does it make if you have or have not gone to college (much less graduated)? Going to college and taking a class taught by another human being does not make a person more or less intelligent and able to cogently understand these "complicated" issues. Hubris.

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
Edited by - pleco on 07/14/2005 08:06:31
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 07/14/2005 :  08:07:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
MYSTERY SCHOOLS 

Enjoy...


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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pleco
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Posted - 07/14/2005 :  08:14:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
No mystery to that "school"...

by Filthy
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  08:17:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

MYSTERY SCHOOLS 

Enjoy...



Good site, Kil.
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Nine Gates Mystery School is direct and experiential. It's not about words in a book or the intellect grappling with philosophical constructs. Rather, Mystery School allows you to experience the heart of the timeless wisdom of the ages in your bones, in your body, in your soul.



Mystery School provides an opportunity to be in the presence of master teachers from many spiritual traditions. Through the use of initiations, healing practices, rituals, celebrations, art, music, and sacred theater, these teachers share their own awareness of the ancient mysteries.


You will learn how to draw strength from the universe, heal yourself and others, enhance your ability to communicate deeply, manifest more personal power, and use your own energy more effectively in the world. Mystery School is a chance to delve deeply into the heart and essence of the true power of being human.

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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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HYBRID
BANNED

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  09:03:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Trish

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID
Yes, that is interesting because the heads of the christian church ARE illuminati. They use the same symbols etc.



To which particular Christian sect do you refer?

I dislike pushing, but which university was it where you studied and which course of study did you engage in?



DO you people pay attention. I Am in no religion. They are all prisons of the heart and mind.

Indiana State University, Indiana University, Indiana University Perdue University in Indianapolis. I have moved around a lot the last few years. Specifically Archaeology, but I have studied alot of History, religions, and psychology.
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tw101356
Skeptic Friend

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2005 :  09:11:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message
So when you talk about Mystery Schools, do you mean things like the Eleusinian Mysteries, the Delphic Mysteries, Orphism, Mithraism, and/or the Mysteries of Osiris? Maybe Cybele or Magna Mater too? All of the above? Are there others I've not mentioned?

You mentioned that modern religions share the same symbols? Which symbols are these?


- TW
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