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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 08/09/2005 : 18:43:23 [Permalink]
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Matt,
If you are saying that the very fact that I considered whether or not the soup can was art makes it art regardless of the conclusion I came to, then I challenge you to present an example of something, anything at all, which is not art.
Oh poop. I knew you'd say this. OK, again, I appeal to the fact that art is a social activity. Sure you can decide to look at your coffee mug in the morning and consider "Do I have an artistic response to this or not?" But that's random. When you see something hanging on the wall in a gallery, cultural indicators are specifically telling you to recognize it as art, and that is why you would typical respond by looking at it and considering "Do I have an artistic response to this or not?"
Here is another way I can explain why I take issue with defining art as just “A creative work which evokes an aesthetic, emotional or intellectual response.” Artists who work representationally usually choose a subject because they have had an aesthetic, emotional or intellectual response to it. Then they try to bring that recognition to an audience by transforming the subject matter visually. For instance, Georgia O'Keeffe said she painted flowers very large and with rich colors so people would see them as she saw them. Warhol was apparently inspired by looking at rows of Campbell soup cans on shelves in the grocery store. Now the flowers aren't a “creative work” unless there is a conscious deity who made them. But the soup can could be said to be a creative work because they were indeed designed by commercial artists. So are the actual soup cans art?
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
Check out my art store: http://www.marfknox.etsy.com
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2005 : 19:33:13 [Permalink]
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| What if my coffe mug has a picture of Warhols soup can on it? |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 08:52:19 [Permalink]
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Dry_vby
I love your posts most when I have no idea if you are being serious or not. Either way they make me smile.
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
Check out my art store: http://www.marfknox.etsy.com
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 19:12:19 [Permalink]
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"I am not an artist.
I cannot paint my house.
I cannot chisel marble,
I cannot twist and shout.
I am not a poet.
I cannot make a rhyme.
I do not know the big words,
Like "spritz" and "paradigm"."
Michael Nesmith. |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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