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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 07/22/2005 : 03:05:27 [Permalink]
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During the last MFA final reviews at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts, a born-again Christian artist was humiliated by his own advisor. The advisor gave the artist some very nice opening remarks, but apparently this ignorant fuck had no idea that the student's work was all inspired by Christian theology (and the student never kept his beliefs a secret; the advisor really was just thick-headed). During the critique, the advisor read the artists's statement, and right in the middle of the crit, he burst out, saying, "What? You are doing this from a Christian point of view? I would never support your art in that sense. I will only support it from the humanistic point of view." This may sound like a simple story of humiliation, but it goes deeper, since that particular advisor has a reputation for promoting the careers of emerging artists, and thus, that artists's career plans were surely damaged by his advisor's prejudice.
H. sapiens being the species it is, I would suspect that statistacly the percentage of asshole atheists is about the same as those of believers.
Everybody in my community has known that I'm an atheist for a very long time, and only a few ever got upset about it. Those few pretty much leave me alone these days. Our M/C has some fairly close ties to the Christian Biker's Association as well as being a member of the Southern Coalition. Thus, at any of our events one might see the colors of the CBA as well as the local chapter of the Hell's Angels and other so-called 1% clubs. Kind'a funny, if you think about it.
Years back, when I was driving truck and had finally become an owner/operator (read: heavily in debt), I attended a recruting session for Covenant Transport. I'd read that they'd had a really good deal for O/Os. At the meeting, they gave us a questionaire. At least half of the questions were of a religious nature (what church, for how long, and so forth) and I got the impression that unless a driver was born again, there would be no lease. I didn't bother to fill it out and left before the speaking began, as did a couple of others.
I think that atheists have it a little better than in the past. Not so many of us are underground these days.
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abnoxio
New Member
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Posted - 07/26/2005 : 17:23:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
The first time I ever heard the term "Bright" in this context it made me sort of raise an eyebrow and go "huh?".
Personally I think our case (atheist or agnostic) is best made by simply insisting, at all times, that claims of fact be supported by evidence.
There is no name that we could call ourselves that will make the religious like us any better.
screw them, they'll hate us whether we believe in a god or not, as long as it's not THEIR god that we don't believe in.
I say we come up with a name for us that is really, really, offensive to theists, but then again i'm a bit of a jerk!
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2005 : 15:41:27 [Permalink]
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To abnoxio:
That sort of us (nontheists) them (theists) talk isn't likely to get us anywhere useful, seeing as there are plenty of them that have no problem with us. One of my friends at school is a self-declared "evangelical" who is active in her church and Bible study, and she never tries to convert me (at least directly, I imagine she's evangelizing by example?) and we hang out quite a bit. Obviously she doens't "hate" me. Only the extremists hate us. |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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