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H. Humbert
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2005 :  20:32:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Boron10

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert
He made sure nobody was in the car ...
Just out of curiosity, where was his wife?

His wife was in the car. I've edited it to read "made sure nobody else was in the car."

And it isn't a convertible. That's sort of why they specifically call it a sedan, although there are convertible sedans nowadays I guess.

And god is not the culprit either.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/14/2005 20:37:27
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Dry_vby
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Australia
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Posted - 08/15/2005 :  02:52:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message
Man, you do like 'em sad.

His wife died giving birth. The stranger was the baby.

What is the definition of a will?

"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

Bob Dylan
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  02:08:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby

What is the definition of a will?

It's a dead giveaway.

How is a cold like a great humiliation?
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  00:25:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
Well it's been a few days so I'll answer the riddle.
quote:
Originally posted by me

How is a cold like a great humiliation?
It brings even the proudest man to his sneeze.

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H. Humbert
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USA
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  00:50:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dv82matt

Well it's been a few days so I'll answer the riddle.
quote:
Originally posted by me

How is a cold like a great humiliation?
It brings even the proudest man to his sneeze.



These aren't riddles, just bad puns....


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/23/2005 00:51:10
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  01:33:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert
These aren't riddles, just bad puns....
Arrr... so they are. Here be a riddle.

There is an island with 100 lions and 1 sheep. The lions would like to eat the sheep but there is a catch. Any lion that eats the sheep will fall asleep and be easy prey for the other lions. A lion that eats another lion also falls asleep.

Only one lion can eat the sheep or sleeping lion. There is no sharing of the carcass.

The lions can survive without eating the sheep. A lion will only eat the sheep or a sleeping lion if it can do so without being eaten itself.

Assuming that the lions are completely logical, does the sheep get eaten? Explain your answer.
Edited by - dv82matt on 08/23/2005 01:48:22
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  12:54:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
The riddle did not include the fact that a lion wants to eat another lion, so assuming that they don't, the first lion that eats the sheep and falls asleep will not be eaten.

So the answer is yes.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  13:14:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

The riddle did not include the fact that a lion wants to eat another lion, so assuming that they don't, the first lion that eats the sheep and falls asleep will not be eaten.

So the answer is yes.

A good try, but a lion will eat a sleeping lion if it can do so without being eaten itself.

The answer to this riddle does not depend on a trick in the wording.
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Siberia
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  13:37:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
No.
If they can live without eating the sheep, they probably will.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  15:18:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

No.
If they can live without eating the sheep, they probably will.



I really hope it isn't that obvious, otherwise I'm going to feel like an idiot.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  17:02:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

No.
If they can live without eating the sheep, they probably will.

Frayed knot ...er I mean 'fraid not. The sheep will get eaten if a lion can eat it and avoid becoming a meal itself.
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  17:09:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dv82matt

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

No.
If they can live without eating the sheep, they probably will.

Frayed knot ...er I mean 'fraid not. The sheep will get eaten if a lion can eat it and avoid becoming a meal itself.



So how do we know if a lion will be able to avoid being eaten?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  17:21:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

So how do we know if a lion will be able to avoid being eaten?

It has to do with the fact that the lions are completely logical. If you can figure it out then you've solved the riddle.

Perhaps I should add that the lions have full knowledge of the situation. Specifically each individual lion is aware that all the other lions are also completely logical.
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  17:40:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Every lion knows that if they eat a lion, they will be eaten. Therefore, one lion eats the sheep, and no lion eats that lion.

So the answer is yes.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 08/23/2005 17:42:31
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dv82matt
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  17:55:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

Every lion knows that if they eat a lion, they will be eaten. Therefore, one lion eats the sheep, and no lion eats that lion.

So the answer is yes.
Nope. The lions do not discriminate between the sheep and a sleeping lion.

Here's a hint:With 100 lions the sheep will not be eaten, but if we were to put one additional lion on the island making a total of 101 lions, the sheep will be instantly devoured.
Edited by - dv82matt on 08/23/2005 18:14:27
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