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Valiant Dancer
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The second thread has gone 15 pages, so...... before it gets locked, lets remind bigbrain of the questions he has failed to answer while demanding answers from us.
Answer the following questions that have been put to you
For your convenience, I have classified them and referenced who asked the question. In the case of multiple people asking the same question, I have tried to list all of the people who asked.
The categories are GEN - for general questions relation to personal experiences, DI - for questions about Deep Impact/Temple 1, EX - for questions about explosives/flammable materials, and LM - for questions relating to space travel
1)(LM) Where is the money scammed off of the moon shot program? -- filthy/Fripp/H Humbert
2) (LM) Who's got it? -- filthy/Fripp
3) (LM) Did NASA plan all the well-publicized failures as well? -- Fripp
4) (LM) So maybe you could explain to me how we should know (again, we are ignoring all the stuff that has been posted) how NASA controls their probes? -- Ricky
5) (DI) Now if this was a NASA hoax how did they get the comet to brighten at just the right moment? -- Stargirl/Kil
6) (DI) Or are professional and amateur astronomers from around the world in cahoots with NASA too? -- Stargirl
7) (DI) Or maybe you think NASA asked a psychic when the comet would brighten due to a natural outburst and used that time for their time of impact? -- Stargirl
8) (DI) What were exposure settings for the first photo? -- pleco
9) (EX) Then why is water used to extinguish fires? -- Fripp
10) (LM) Can you show your plan for getting the satellite up to that speed and the trajectory, including the math showing the gravitation pull of the planets and sun, plus the amount of money required? -- pleco
11) (LM) what evidence do you have that Softimage, Maya, 3D Studio Max, LightWave 3D invent these images for NASA? -- Me
12) (GEN) Have you ever piloted a plane? -- pleco
13) (LM) How fast was Cassini actually going when the launch vehicle quit pushing it? -- Dave W
14) (LM) How high (from the Earth) was Cassini when the launch vehicle quit pushing it? -- Dave W
These are all the questions I can find placed to you in the last 29 pages of this subject. You have yet to respond to any of them.
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Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 08/22/2005 08:33:07
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Siberia
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 Posted - 08/22/2005 : 10:37:17 [Permalink]
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As for the picture I posted earlier:
Yes, it's only an imaginary planet. Said artist is well aware of the physical problems with it and claims she took some artistic liberties with said picture  It was only a boredom-born project anyway.
However, if you really want some professional space art: this guy is your man.
P.S.: I'm not sure that's the correct url. I'll check when I get home. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/22/2005 : 18:07:58 [Permalink]
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Val wrote (in the previous thread):quote:
The art, though beautiful, has some interesting astronomical problems if it really existed.
First, the dual rings are too close to the equator and too large.
Second, the moons are too close together in orbit of the planet to be stable.
But that's just what I'm thinking is wrong.
The first problem that caught my eye was the dual, parallel rings. Of course, dual rings of any sort would quickly merge somewhere close to the planet's axis of rotation due to tidal forces and collisions, but parallel rings would mean that one (or both) is (or are) not orbiting the planet's center-of-gravity. |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 05:06:32 [Permalink]
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| On this note, they found one of the inner sattelites to be creating a ring of water vapor as it swings around Saturn, It spews the water at high pressure and it escapes the weak gravity. This answers the question they had as to how that particular delicate ring maintins its structure. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 06:21:45 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Val wrote (in the previous thread):quote:
The art, though beautiful, has some interesting astronomical problems if it really existed.
First, the dual rings are too close to the equator and too large.
Second, the moons are too close together in orbit of the planet to be stable.
But that's just what I'm thinking is wrong.
The first problem that caught my eye was the dual, parallel rings. Of course, dual rings of any sort would quickly merge somewhere close to the planet's axis of rotation due to tidal forces and collisions, but parallel rings would mean that one (or both) is (or are) not orbiting the planet's center-of-gravity.
As is the case with halo rings. Which is why I was going for too large and too close to the equator. If we wanted to keep the rings the size they are, then yes, they'd merge near the equator. |
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 08/26/2005 : 13:18:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT RIDICULOUS OLD CROCK IN FLIGHT 
LET ME SEE IT IN FLIGHT AND I WILL ANSWER ALL OTHER QUESTIONS.
Brilliant, birbrain! Since neither Val nor anyone else at SFN can actually make NASA dust off their old test vehicles and launch them, we'll almost certainly never be able to show you "that ridiculous old crock in flight." (Does anyone have old NASA footage?) So we can't meet your ridiculous challenge and you don't have to "answer all other questions."
Perhaps, then, you'll drop this thread (you've failed horribly, anyhow) and move on to something you can prove... |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 06:43:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
"... Here is the link to a quicktime clip showing Neil Armstrong flying the LLRV (Lunar Landing Research Vehicle).
Enjoy!
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/LLRV/HTML/EM-0019-05.html"
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And here is the link to a quicktime clip showing a fake flight of SLLRV (Steam Lunar Landing Research Vehicle)
Enjoy!!!
http://trc.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/LLRV/Small/EM-0019-03.mov
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 07:43:38 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
And here is the link to a quicktime clip showing a fake flight of SLLRV (Steam Lunar Landing Research Vehicle)
We tend to work in evidence, here. Where is your evidence that that clip shows a "fake flight?"
Of course, your question was answered, regardless of what you think of that answer. The fact that you haven't lived up to your end of your proposed bargain clearly demonstrates your low moral character. |
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filthy
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 08:08:35 [Permalink]
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Sure wish I knew where all that money went. Why, if I worked it right, I might could blackmail a little of it my way....
So, let's try smoking this bear out from another direction. It would be easy to find if all of these endevors were faked simply by looking at inventory records. Every nut, bolt, pop-rivit and strip of duct tape used by NASA has a NASA part number. Each and every vehicle and simulator has a list of the necessary parts needed to build it. In-fucking-triplicate, and not only does NASA have it, but the contractors involved as well. All one has to do is go over the lists and see that all parts required were used. As most of it is ancient history, the Freedom of Information Act might help get the documents.
Simple, no? Has anyone thought to do this? Of coures not. Chances are, they'd have to find and sell a new conspiricy, or knowingly tell outright lies.
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 09:30:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
... Of course, your question was answered, regardless of what you think of that answer. The fact that you haven't lived up to your end of your proposed bargain clearly demonstrates your low moral character.
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It's raining here 
Dear Dave W.
my question "Then show the others, please" was NOT answered
I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST ANOTHER OLD CROCK IN FLIGHT, NOT THAT RIDICULOUS DINOSAUR SKELETON WITH THAT WONDERFUL "PININFARINA-FERRARI" COCKPIT
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 09:50:38 [Permalink]
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I have already answered all questions of Valiant Dancer
For example:
11) (LM) what evidence do you have that Softimage, Maya, 3D Studio Max, LightWave 3D invent these images for NASA? -- Me
"Do you believe this picture is real?
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/f/044/2F130264571EFF0700P1120L0M1.HTML
Why do NASA's buffoons use fisheye lens?
To make all these poor pictures more mysterious, more interesting.
But all these pictures are very ugly, very poor: is Mars only a sphere full of stones?
WHY IS THIS PICTURE FAKE?
Look at the "sky". It seems a grey level surface illuminated by a spot light. Where are all the variegated gradations, shadows, tones, nuances of the atmosphere?
Is Mars so insignificant, so inexpressive?
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, DEAR GULLIBLE PEOPLE"
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 09:58:16 [Permalink]
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10) (LM) Can you show your plan for getting the satellite up to that speed and the trajectory, including the math showing the gravitation pull of the planets and sun, plus the amount of money required? -- pleco
There is no technology today with which we could go to the moon, to Mars or Saturn 
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 10:01:25 [Permalink]
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1)(LM) Where is the money scammed off of the moon shot program? -- filthy/Fripp/H Humbert
2) (LM) Who's got it? -- filthy/Fripp
The money have flown away  |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/27/2005 : 10:06:06 [Permalink]
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5) (DI) Now if this was a NASA hoax how did they get the comet to brighten at just the right moment? -- Stargirl/Kil
6) (DI) Or are professional and amateur astronomers from around the world in cahoots with NASA too? -- Stargirl
7) (DI) Or maybe you think NASA asked a psychic when the comet would brighten due to a natural outburst and used that time for their time of impact? -- Stargirl
Only metropolitan legends |
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