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zaphod beeblebrox
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 Posted - 08/30/2005 : 15:55:21 [Permalink]
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Is it normal for you that a comet has a face of a bad animal?
http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/jpg/HRI_937_1.jpg
"YES, IT'S NORMAL, ALL COMETS HAVE FACE OF BAD ANIMALS, YOU AREN'T DOING ANY EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND".
    
Huh? It doesn't look like an animal at all, It dose however look like my nose definite evidence of a conspiracy though. |
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 06:43:57 [Permalink]
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Have you studied my perpspective lessons?
Well, now you should understand why this picture is fake
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
AND THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT YOU CAN'T CONFUTE
HERE COMPLEX CALCULATIONS ARE NO USE, dear friend sts60
HERE YOU NEED ONLY SOME INTELLIGENCE
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 07:15:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
Have you studied my perpspective lessons?
Another instructor to teach us of all the mysteries of the universe. Yeesh! But if you must play that role, I shall ask: what sir, are your qualifications?
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Well, now you should understand why this picture is fake
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
You have demonstrated nothing of the sort.
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AND THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT YOU CAN'T CONFUTE
How so?
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HERE COMPLEX CALCULATIONS ARE NO USE, dear friend sts60
As your dear friend sts60 and anyone in the areo-space program, or any field of science, will tell you: calulations are vital. If you don't have the math, you don't have the theory.
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HERE YOU NEED ONLY SOME INTELLIGENCE
No, here you need some intelligence, or at least some common sense, and you are not going to aquire any betting your reputation on the blatherings of the moon landing woo-woos.
I have shown you the way to settle the matter once and for all. I suggest that you take a little time out and investigate it. But of course, you will not do this. It involves study and concentration, and it is so much easier to make a claim, back it with a bullshit reference, then shout about it in the face of factual opposition.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 08:51:43 [Permalink]
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... Looks like the edge of the CM window to me ...
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You are scrambling on glass.
You are arguing that black is white and white black.
You are like believers in God.
A mother says: "my son is dead, God is bad".
A priest tells her: "no, God is loving, God loves you".
In fact God loves all children who suffer from cancer.
And here we have the basic misunderstanding of the ages.
No matter how loud you shout, you cannot disprove that the shadow isn't the CM window. As we are talking about a picture taken by an astronaut of the rising LM from the CM, the window ledge got in the way of this one. It is dark looking because the outside is much brighter than the inside of the CM. This is basic photography.
And you still haven't bothered answering any of the 14 questions posed to you and compiled at the front of this thread.
Just saying something over and over while proving no proof for your assertation makes you arrogant, not right. |
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zaphod beeblebrox
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 10:14:13 [Permalink]
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| Nobrain By your reasoning this picture http://www.atpm.com/7.12/sewickley/images/pan-out-420.jpg is also fake THIS IS ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE YOU CANT CONFUTE!! ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX THE MAN WHO EXPOSED A SMALL SITE!!!! (See how annoying that is.) |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 10:35:56 [Permalink]
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No, here you need some intelligence, or at least some common sense, and you are not going to aquire any betting your reputation on the blatherings of the moon landing woo-woos.
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Not even in front of this absolute evidence, you yield to persuasion, like a person who says the sky is green in spite of it's blue.
What can I say about a person who refuses the evidence?
You are like those who believe in God in spite of the evidence they have never seen or heard him.
You trust those who think for you because you're afraid to think by yourself.
In our little world there are many and many persons who prefer to think with the head of the other men.
They are afraid to be out of gaggle.
Look at this picture again
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE IT IS FAKE.
TRY TO REASON WITH YOUR HEAD.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 11:01:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
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No, here you need some intelligence, or at least some common sense, and you are not going to aquire any betting your reputation on the blatherings of the moon landing woo-woos.
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Not even in front of this absolute evidence, you yield to persuasion, like a person who says the sky is green in spite of it's blue.
What can I say about a person who refuses the evidence?
We've been saying plenty about you.
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You are like those who believe in God in spite of the evidence they have never seen or heard him.
You trust those who think for you because you're afraid to think by yourself.
BUZZZZ!!!!!! Wrong answer. We've researched your claims and put it together with our own experiences and determined your assertations are bullshit.
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In our little world there are many and many persons who prefer to think with the head of the other men.
They are afraid to be out of gaggle.
Look at this picture again
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE IT IS FAKE.
TRY TO REASON WITH YOUR HEAD.
Did that. You're still wrong. It is a genuine photo, you just don't understand the design of the camera, mounting of the camera, and the topography of the place it was taken. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 12:13:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
No, here you need some intelligence, or at least some common sense, and you are not going to aquire any betting your reputation on the blatherings of the moon landing woo-woos.
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Not even in front of this absolute evidence, you yield to persuasion, like a person who says the sky is green in spite of it's blue.
What can I say about a person who refuses the evidence?
You are like those who believe in God in spite of the evidence they have never seen or heard him.
You trust those who think for you because you're afraid to think by yourself.
In our little world there are many and many persons who prefer to think with the head of the other men.
They are afraid to be out of gaggle.
Look at this picture again
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE IT IS FAKE.
TRY TO REASON WITH YOUR HEAD.
You have no evidence. You have a mere photograph with no reliable documention, and a lot of blather. Typical woo-woo stuff; -- do you believe in UFO visitations from the planet Erotica 5 as well?
Find and analyze NASA's paper trail and you might be able to come up with something worth considering.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 13:37:49 [Permalink]
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... You have no evidence. You have a mere photograph with no reliable documention, and a lot of blather ...
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... You're still wrong. It is a genuine photo, you just don't understand the design of the camera, mounting of the camera, and the topography of the place it was taken ...
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YOU ARE IN THE PAY OF NASA'S BUFFOONS BAND.
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE YOU HAVEN'T YET UNDERSTOOD.
Read me carefully:
if in a picture there is a square about horizontal (in this case the tips of LM's legs), the two lines that join the two vertices on the left and the two vertices on the right intersect on the horizon line.
Please, go here
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa021603a.htm
"The invention of linear perspective is generally attributed to the Florentine architect Brunelleschi, and the ideas continued to be developed and used by Renaissance artists, notably Piero Della Francesca and Andrea Mantegna. The first book to include a treatise on Perspective, 'On Painting' was published by Leon Battista Alberti in 1436".
The greatest artists of my country have invented and discovered the laws of perspective.
http://drawsketch.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ematc/math5.geometry/unit11/unit11.html
(click on the word "geometry" to see this site)
"Perspective is the rein and rudder of painting"
Leonardo da Vinci
See again this drawings
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-4.jpg
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-5.jpg
In this picture
http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5927.jpg
THE LANDING SITE IS BELOW THE HORIZON LINE BUT THE HORIZON IS NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF CAMERA.
In this picture the horizon is at the right height
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
HAVEN'T YOU YET UNDERSTOOD?
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 13:44:54 [Permalink]
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http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/jpg/HRI_937_1.jpg
Huh? It doesn't look like an animal at all, It dose however look like my nose definite evidence of a conspiracy though.
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Maybe you need a clever oculist
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Paulos23
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 13:47:03 [Permalink]
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Even though my drawing classes are years behind me, even I know that the vanising point does not have to be on the bloody horizen!
The vanising point being above the horizen in the picuter is not evedence of the picture being fake! |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 13:55:19 [Permalink]
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... You have no evidence. You have a mere photograph with no reliable documention, and a lot of blather ...
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... You're still wrong. It is a genuine photo, you just don't understand the design of the camera, mounting of the camera, and the topography of the place it was taken ...
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YOU ARE IN THE PAY OF NASA'S BUFFOONS BAND.
I see. Then why are the following true.
1) NASA does not sign my paycheck.
2) I'm in the healthcare proffession, not aeronautics.
3) I'm not well paid.
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IT'S NOT POSSIBLE YOU HAVEN'T YET UNDERSTOOD.
Read me carefully:
if in a picture there is a square about horizontal (in this case the tips of LM's legs), the two lines that join the two vertices on the left and the two vertices on the right intersect on the horizon line.
Please, go here
http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa021603a.htm
"The invention of linear perspective is generally attributed to the Florentine architect Brunelleschi, and the ideas continued to be developed and used by Renaissance artists, notably Piero Della Francesca and Andrea Mantegna. The first book to include a treatise on Perspective, 'On Painting' was published by Leon Battista Alberti in 1436".
The greatest artists of my country have invented and discovered the laws of perspective.
http://drawsketch.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ematc/math5.geometry/unit11/unit11.html
(click on the word "geometry" to see this site)
"Perspective is the rein and rudder of painting"
Leonardo da Vinci
See again this drawings
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-4.jpg
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-5.jpg
In this picture
http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5927.jpg
THE LANDING SITE IS BELOW THE HORIZON LINE BUT THE HORIZON IS NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF CAMERA.
In this picture the horizon is at the right height
http://www.geocities.com/ameri1cano/fakemoon.jpg
HAVEN'T YOU YET UNDERSTOOD?
I have understood. You are still wrong. Perspective in art is different than perspective in real life. Again, you have ignored the topography of where the lander was, the mounting of the camera, and the basic functioning of the camera.
Saying the same things over and over does not make you right. |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 14:02:00 [Permalink]
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Even though my drawing classes are years behind me, even I know that the vanishing point does not have to be on the bloody horizon!
The vanishing point being above the horizon in the picture is not evidence of the picture being fake!
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Read again my perspective lessons
You have not understood: vanishing points must be at the eight of horizon line.
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 14:12:39 [Permalink]
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
OUR GREATEST ARTISTS USED PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE THEIR PAINTINGS REAL.
INSTEAD OF SAYING I'M WRONG, SHOW ONE PICTURE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW PERSPECTIVE LAWS.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/31/2005 : 14:18:35 [Permalink]
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Kee-rist! 
Sort out the paper trail, bigbrain. It is produced ad nauseum in every government endevor. There you will find all of the proofs you need, one way or the other.
Leonardo wept...
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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