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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
 Posted - 09/01/2005 : 15:15:40
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The Ride Pundit hits the nail on the head in this angry (even by his standards) diatribe.
Warning, contains rudeness
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Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 15:29:40 [Permalink]
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The one thing that continues to baffle me is, if so many people hate Bush so much, how the hell did he get his finger on the button.
"I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Democracy just doesn't work".
Homer Simpson. |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/01/2005 : 15:48:19 [Permalink]
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The one thing that continues to baffle me is, if so many people hate Bush so much, how the hell did he get his finger on the button.
By hating gays enough to propose a constitutional ammendment to "protect" marriage from them. He defeated the nefarious gay plot to "destroy" the institution of marriage. Then he stumped in a ton of red states to get those "voter initiatives" to ban gay marriage (many of these states already had laws banning it, to demonstrate just how stupid the rubes are....) on the ballot.
Then, the rubes came out in droves to "protect" marriage from those evil homos. Since they knew that Kerry was a flip-flopper and was married to some elitist European woman, and he only went to Vietnam to have an excuse to become an anti-war activist and betray his country by aiding and abbetting the enemy by speaking against US actions... and then they looked over and saw the name of the guy who hated fags, just like they did, on the ballot... serendipity!
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 15:56:15 [Permalink]
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"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 16:32:10 [Permalink]
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Marketing has become a very exact science that the Republicans are better at than the Dems. And one might expect that given the large corporate backing the Republicans have, (since after all, who are the marketers?) Add to that the ever increasing control of the TV and radio media and you have a recipe for manipulating the masses.
Throw in a computerized voting machines sold and run by a Republican, (Ohio still can't explain any other reason why the exit polls would differ so greatly from the actual vote count), and, a swing state governed by a certain brother, (again, the only other time the exit polls suspiciously differed from the actual count), and voila! You get an incompetent president 2 terms running. |
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 16:38:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
Marketing has become a very exact science that the Republicans are better at than the Dems. And one might expect that given the large corporate backing the Republicans have, (since after all, who are the marketers?) Add to that the ever increasing control of the TV and radio media and you have a recipe for manipulating the masses.
Throw in a computerized voting machines sold and run by a Republican, (Ohio still can't explain any other reason why the exit polls would differ so greatly from the actual vote count), and, a swing state governed by a certain brother, (again, the only other time the exit polls suspiciously differed from the actual count), and voila! You get an incompetent president 2 terms running.
Thank you for your intelligent and concise reply.
I can't help thinking, after reading it, however, that all this talk about "control of media" and "manipulating the masses" could be construed by some as "conspiracy talk". |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 19:09:01 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
Marketing has become a very exact science that the Republicans are better at than the Dems. And one might expect that given the large corporate backing the Republicans have, (since after all, who are the marketers?) Add to that the ever increasing control of the TV and radio media and you have a recipe for manipulating the masses.
Throw in a computerized voting machines sold and run by a Republican, (Ohio still can't explain any other reason why the exit polls would differ so greatly from the actual vote count), and, a swing state governed by a certain brother, (again, the only other time the exit polls suspiciously differed from the actual count), and voila! You get an incompetent president 2 terms running.
Thank you for your intelligent and concise reply.
I can't help thinking, after reading it, however, that all this talk about "control of media" and "manipulating the masses" could be construed by some as "conspiracy talk".
Hi Dry,
You as well as I know how political parties use the media and scare tactics to manupulate voters. You are an Aussie, do children overboard and interest rates ring a bell????
The right generally scream louder and get their message through. The louder screams penetrate more to an ever increasingly apathetic public. The majority of voters are more concerned with Glen McGrath's ankle to care about the lies from government.
It's not conspiracy talk, its the truth and Joe Public does not give a shit. |
Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 20:49:31 [Permalink]
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I would go further and say that the whole world economy is based on fear.
I think as far as chosing our leaders, we are given the illusion of choice.
What I was wondering is, how far down this path can we wander before someone starts jumping up and down and accusing me of propagating a "conspiracy theory"?
I have been trying to explain the apathy I am surrounded by for some time in these forums, but I just get accused of being lazy and selfish when I do.
Losing the ashes would be a bitch, though. |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 22:23:31 [Permalink]
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Losing the ashes would be a bitch, though.
The Aussies have played their best cricket when their backs are against the wall.....they are just beating us playing their best cricket when we are playing quite possibly the worst cricket in 15 years
Poms will fold mate, trust me
Sorry to hijack the thread guys......it's nice to have a fellow cobber from Oz here |
Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 22:29:53 [Permalink]
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Somehow this is proving your point that we would rather discuss cricket (and sport in general) than those other issues.
Our batting needs to improve a hellavu lot, as does our bowling (and we gotta do summitt about those no balls).
It's a conspiracy, I tells ya. |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 23:02:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dry_vby
Somehow this is proving your point that we would rather discuss cricket (and sport in general) than those other issues.
Our batting needs to improve a hellavu lot, as does our bowling (and we gotta do summitt about those no balls).
It's a conspiracy, I tells ya.
It is easier to discuss sport, the majority of people don't want to ask the hard questions for fear of answers they won't like. That is just the way Johnny wants it!!!!
That's why Australian Idol out rates Dateline...
Go home, turn on the telly and switch off... |
Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.
Al Franken |
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Dry_vby
Skeptic Friend
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 03:51:21 [Permalink]
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Honest Johnny has got his head so far up Dubyas arse that they somewhat resemble a pontomime donkey.
I watch "Dateline", but I prefer "The cutting edge". |
"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."
Bob Dylan
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2005 : 13:18:45 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby
I would go further and say that the whole world economy is based on fear.
Not here. The consumer economy has a very big dose of planned obsolescence and manufactured need.
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Originally posted by Dry_vby
I think as far as chosing our leaders, we are given the illusion of choice.
We have choice that isn't exercised very effectively. It's hard for one to chose a leader when the leaders are able to manipulate a majority of voters.
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Originally posted by Dry_vby
What I was wondering is, how far down this path can we wander before someone starts jumping up and down and accusing me of propagating a "conspiracy theory"?
It's a mix. There isn't a secret world government as some believe. And the government isn't competent to coordinate much of a conspiracy, (witness how poorly they coordinated the hurricane relief effort). But big business, OTOH, is very good at some things. Marketing and controlling the mainstream news are two to name a few. Big business has a very strong hand in the government here and they bring their skills with them.
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