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Valiant Dancer
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 Posted - 09/19/2005 : 07:19:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CourseKnot
I have to give him props for sticking to his guns even though they're just water pistols.
Empty water pistols at that.
I blame the Piper effect.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 10:01:38 [Permalink]
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| Page 15 again just in time for the announcment of the next round of moon landing hoaxes by the US gov.($1.06 x10^11 by 2018) which follow the Chinese moon landing hoaxes and precede the Mars mission hoax, oh joy. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 11:19:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sts60
I think that those who witnessed the launch and those who worked in the control rooms, as well as those who built the craft, not to mention the records kept of it all, are sufficent verification, don't you?
It's pretty good verification, especially when you consider that many thousands of people worked on Apollo, from NASA leadership down through the many, many subcontractors.?
Many people have worked for NASA buffoons but they have been swindled too.
Dear friend, dear professor sts60,
you are an engineer. How can you think to protect a steel-aluminum capsule against a temperature of 5000 °F - 2800 °C with a plastic coating 7 cm thick?
It's been my experience that every one of the real Apollo hoax believers to date simply don't understand the basic principles in whatever area they're making claims. For instance, claiming that gravity works on planets, but spacecraft are too small to be affected by it.
I have only said that gravity of the sun can affect spacecrafts in an insignificant way and that Cassini could fly at 100,000 miles per hour towards Saturn without turning around Venus and Jupiter.
Cassini would have been able to meet Saturn in a little more than one year.
  
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 12:16:18 [Permalink]
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Many people have worked for NASA buffoons but they have been swindled too.
Unsupported statement.
How many have been 'swindled' by NASA and to what end? What methods and strategems were used in the alledged swindle?
When answering, give documentary reference, and personal testimony of the victim(s) if available.
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How can you think to protect a steel-aluminum capsule against a temperature of 5000 °F - 2800 °C with a plastic coating 7 cm thick?
This has been explained to you ad nauseum -- I don't understand; you are capable of writing in at least two languages, but seem incapable of reading in this one.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 12:26:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
I have only said that gravity of the sun can affect spacecrafts in an insignificant way...
And that is simply wrong, as has already been shown through the correct physics and math. Since you have not shown anything which demonstrates that the correct physics are, in fact, wrong, then there's no reason to believe you. You can say whatever you want, but you'll only convince other people by being correct, not by being flat-out wrong about elementary Newtonian physics. |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 13:29:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
How many have been 'swindled' by NASA and to what end? What methods and strategems were used in the alledged swindle?
When answering, give documentary reference, and personal testimony of the victim(s) if available.
Billions of people believe in God, nevertheless God doesn't exist. They are swindled when they are children and most of them will ever believe in him.
Maybe in this forum most of skeptic friends were children during the fake landing on the moon.
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 13:32:28 [Permalink]
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Looks like we are not going back to the moon again like we didn't before. NASA will be introducing an apollo type craps rocket system.
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If all goes well, its first flight to the space station would launch in 2011. In keeping with President Bush's vision for space exploration, the first mission to the moon is slated for 2018.
The full conspiracy is discussed here.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2005 : 13:59:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
Originally posted by filthy
How many have been 'swindled' by NASA and to what end? What methods and strategems were used in the alledged swindle?
When answering, give documentary reference, and personal testimony of the victim(s) if available.
Billions of people believe in God, nevertheless God doesn't exist. They are swindled when they are children and most of them will ever believe in him.
Maybe in this forum most of skeptic friends were children during the fake landing on the moon.
You didn't answer the question.
You follow up comparing belief in something unmeasurable and undetectable with something which was very measurable and detectable. To support your lies, you have to ignore the thousands of independant verifications by private citizens and construct a crazy quilt of conspiracies involving hundreds of thousands of people.
Back then 8 guys couldn't keep their yap shut on the Watergate break in. But, magically, we are expected to believe that thousands of scientists (which if you've ever talked to one, you'd know the problem isn't to get them to talk about their work, the problem is getting them to shut up) would keep absolutely silent about a conspiracy of this magnatude. In addition, you are expecting us to believe that no craft containing humans (even when independantly verified through direct observation by amateur astronomers) has ever safely re-entered the atmosphere.
To add the icing on the cake, you expect us to take you at your word because you just so happen to be from Italy. Land of La Cosa Nostra, Moussolini, and Da Vinci. So friggin what. You are none of these people or members of these organizations and have shown your lack of grasp on reality. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 14:21:56 [Permalink]
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Billions of people believe in God, nevertheless God doesn't exist. They are swindled when they are children and most of them will ever believe in him.
Maybe in this forum most of skeptic friends were children during the fake landing on the moon.
Belief in God(s) has been accepted throughout human history. They are an attempt to explain that which the ancients couldn't understand and have hung on through aquired wealth, power, brain-washing, and politics; but that's a topic for another thread.
I was certainly not a child when the first moon landing was achieved. In fact, I and my ex-wife watched it on TV, in awe, I might add. I don't know if I am the oldest member of SFN, but I'm close to it. But that matters not at all. People here like to do research.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2005 : 16:13:15 [Permalink]
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Oh darn. Another 15 pages just flew by, didn't it? As always you are free to start another thread on this subject. There just has to be much much more to bigbrains claims. He just hasn't gotten to it yet. Gosh, I bet there are another15 more pages worth at least, don't ya think?
This thread is now locked due to length.
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