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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  07:42:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain


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Originally posted by furshur

You are so ignorant you don't even know that the LM and the Command Module fly in a docked configuration.
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If you show me some pictures about this docked configuration, I'll explain why I ask you these pictures













Why would we expect you would? You haven't answered any of the questions put to you yet.

Do tell me, since this stuff was going in earth orbit when it linked up and while in transit to the moon given that

1) Optics were not good enough at the time to image objects of the size the CM/LM link would represent at the distances it was at.
2) There was no space walk to take pictures of the combination in flight

How in the world do you expect us to get an in flight picture of this?

We can get artists representations and pictures of models of it, but no in flight pictures that I know of.

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furshur
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  08:06:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
quote:
If you show me some pictures about this docked configuration, I'll explain why I ask you these pictures

Do your own research (if your pitiful attemps can be called research), you are not worth my time.



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  10:55:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
See again these pictures

1 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5863.jpg
2 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5864.jpg
3 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5865.jpg
4 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5866.jpg
5 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5867.jpg
6 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5868.jpg
7 - http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11-40-5869.jpg

This photo-puzzle can't be completed because another piece is needed.

Look at the picture n. 3

There isn't the piece that should connect above.

Then it is not a composite picture, but a FAKE picture moreover made in a wrong way because the sun should be more on the right



You can make a real composite picture if you take all the photographs using a tripod.

You can't use this image

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.44_6576.jpg

and "The image of the Sun taken from another unspecified photo and inserted into the image by the compositor at a location of his choosing" (ktesibios)

to complete the picture

THIS IS A FAKE-PUZZLE OF FAKE PICTURES

OVER AND OVER
AGAIN AND AGAIN
NOBODY IN 1969 AND NOT EVEN TODAY COULD KEEP IN HOVERING THIS OLD CROCK LANDING ON THE GROUND USING ROCKET ENGINE AS A BRAKE



In this picture, under rocket engine you should see the cement and plaster powder used to create moon surface swept away.

ANOTHER BIG ERROR


"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Edited by - bigbrain on 09/09/2005 13:20:15
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furshur
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  12:34:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
quote:
In this picture, under rocket engine you should not see the cement and plaster powder used to create moon surface.

BWWAAAAAAAAA

Dave you may have to move this entire mess over to the humor section.



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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  13:09:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
In this picture LM looks like a caravan used by pioneers of old Far-West






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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  14:30:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain


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Originally posted by furshur

You are so ignorant you don't even know that the LM and the Command Module fly in a docked configuration.
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If you show me some pictures about this docked configuration, I'll explain why I ask you these pictures













Why would we expect you would? You haven't answered any of the questions put to you yet.

Do tell me, since this stuff was going in earth orbit when it linked up and while in transit to the moon given that

1) Optics were not good enough at the time to image objects of the size the CM/LM link would represent at the distances it was at.
2) There was no space walk to take pictures of the combination in flight

How in the world do you expect us to get an in flight picture of this?

We can get artists representations and pictures of models of it, but no in flight pictures that I know of.



Why do we know so little about re-entry of astronauts

Only these pictures





It is the last film scene easy to realize

NOT EVEN ONLY ONE PICTURE ABOUT THE RE-ENTRY IN ATMOSPHERE WITH FIRE AND FLAMES OF BURNED PLASTIC

WHY, NASA'S BUFFOONS & SWINDLERS







"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  18:55:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Why do we know so little about re-entry of astronauts

Only these pictures...
Liar, liar.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Why not question something for a change?
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Dry_vby
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Australia
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  19:08:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message

Bigpain, you are not atroll, you are a village idiot.

No, wait.

You encompass a much larger area than that.

You are an internet idiot.


"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

Bob Dylan
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2005 :  02:40:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
In Living Clr!
Now Showing at SFN!
Bigbrain's Cmic Strip!

Sorry 'bout that, but weird, colored fonts and demented refusals to face reality inspire weird, colored, demented hiakus.

Anybody get serious and start an investigation of the paper trail yet? Or are the moon-landing dingbats still going to just sit around and play with pictures, among other things, and spout blather?

Oh, wait... I forgot... They don't want to do any sort of real investigation because they know that they would soon have to find something else to spout blather about.


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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  04:08:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
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Originally posted by Dave W.

Liar liar
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You have exaggerated with all these pictures of astronauts' re-entry.

You need at least an hour to see them.

The producer of the film of Lunar Landing in 1969 could not realize credible pictures of the Earth and of burned astronauts because of temperatures 5000 °F - 10000 °F

He concluded the film in all haste.



"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2005 :  08:16:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Did NASA fake the Mercury program, the Gemini program, the Apollo program and all the Shuttle flights? Every one of those involved manned reentry... This has to be the stupidest line of reasoning I have seen yet. Bigbrain, you are truly certifiably insane.

You are also, still, full of crap.


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  08:48:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

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Originally posted by furshur

http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/astronomy/heat-shields-spsc-03.html
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"... while the later Apollo capsules had shields made of phenolic epoxy resin, a form of plastic. Apollo heat shields were nearly 7 centimeters (2.7 inches) thick and weighed 1,360 kilograms (3,000 pounds)...

HA,HA,HA

NASA's buffoons used PLASTIC to protect Apollo capsules...

7 CENTIMETERS THICK

Cripes, slowly I'm knowing a mountain of craps AND YOU SAY: YES, PLASTIC IS VERY HEAT RESISTING, ALL PEOPLE KNOW THIS.

AMONG THE OTHERS, THIS IS THE VERY MUCH MORE BIGGEST IMBECILLAGGINE I HAVE NEVER HEARD.

IF YOU THINK THAT PLASTIC CAN PROTECT A CAPSULE THAT RUNS AT 40,000 KILOMETERS PER HOUR IN ITS IMPACT WITH ATMOSPHERE, THEN YOU ARE IDIOTS WITHOUT ANY HOPE





Go here please

http://www.logwell.com/tech/dhdwe/plastics.html

Garolite / Micarta NEMA G-11 (fiberglass reinforced epoxy resin, FR5 for flame retardant version)
Color: Opaque Green Machining: Easy (Nasty and Quickly Wears Conventional Tooling)
Maximum Temperature: 350°F (Does not melt, but will darken and eventually char at higher temperatures)


Garolite / Micarta NEMA XX (paper reinforced phenolic resin)
Color: Opaque Tan or Copper Machining: Easy
Maximum Temperature: 284°F (Does not melt, but will darken and eventually char at higher temperatures)


Garolite / Micarta NEMA CE (cotton canvas reinforced phenolic resin)
Color: Opaque Tan to Brown Machining: Easy
Maximum Temperature: 239°F [257°F] (Does not melt, but will darken and eventually char at higher temperatures)


Garolite / Micarta NEMA LE (cotton linen reinforced phenolic resin)
Color: Opaque Tan to Brown Machining: Easy
Maximum Temperature: 250°F [285°F] (Does not melt, but will darken and eventually char at higher temperatures)

HA,HA,HA

NASA's buffoons used PHENOLIC PLASTIC to protect Apollo capsules

7 CENTIMETERS THICK

Cripes, slowly I'm knowing mountains of crap AND YOU SAY: YES, PLASTIC IS VERY HEAT RESISTING, ALL PEOPLE KNOW THIS.

AMONG THE OTHERS, THIS IS THE VERY MUCH MORE BIGGEST IMBECILLAGGINE I HAVE NEVER HEARD.

IF YOU THINK THAT PLASTIC CAN PROTECT A CAPSULE THAT RUNS AT 40,000 KILOMETERS PER HOUR IN ITS IMPACT WITH ATMOSPHERE, THEN YOU ARE IDIOTS WITHOUT ANY HOPE





"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  08:49:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Been thinking. (Something you should try sometime Bigbrain.) Since this deception would now have to go back over 45 years, and again, considering the number of people involved in keeping that deception alive, and considering our governments ability to keep any secrets from us for even weeks at a time due to leaks and such, how can you, Bigbrain, call those working at NASA buffoons? Frankly, keeping a conspiracy of this magnitude secret for half a century would make them the most competent people working in government.

All of your crap, Bigbrain, will not alter the fact that what you are suggesting is simply not possible. Forget the science involved. (You don't grasp that very well anyhow.) On a more human level, your premise fails.

That you alone have seen through this deception really suggests pathology on your part. No joke! You may be a nice guy and very high functioning but the reality is that you really are crazy. Sitting by your computer, you have figured the whole thing out…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  13:06:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
During the re-entry things go this way:

In ten seconds at 5000 °F - 10000 °F the shield made of phenolic epoxy resin chars.

The capsule made of metal melts and the three poor astronauts burn to death.





"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  14:16:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

During the re-entry things go this way:

In ten seconds at 5000 °F - 10000 °F the shield made of phenolic epoxy resin chars.

The capsule made of metal melts and the three poor astronauts burn to death.






And yet...

And yet my ship was in a small, Naval fleet that was assigned to pick up one of the orbital capsuls. I saw it come down -- made a pretty good splash, it did..

Funny thing that: everybody was still alive.....


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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