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And yet my ship was in a small, Naval fleet that was assigned to pick up one of the orbital capsuls. I saw it come down -- made a pretty good splash, it did..
Funny thing that: everybody was still alive.....
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Because that capsule was launched from an airplane of NASA's buffoons who have made joke of you.
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Posted - 09/10/2005 : 14:58:56 [Permalink]
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Is this picture so bright that you can't see only one star?
It doesn't seem to me, it seems in half-light.
Suppose the light was too intense. It was enough to frame only the "sky" to see stars, clear stars.
There is not only one star in only one picture.
Incredible, really incredible.
Why?
Because shots were made in some desert and horizons were faked to get them unrecognizable.
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You have exaggerated with all these pictures of astronauts' re-entry.
I exaggerated nothing. You said that there were only two pictures available after the capsule came down. I posted two more, but there are many more than that available. That makes you a liar.
Why is it that you won't just give up? You've proven yourself wrong at least five times already. You should have used your best arguments first, and so now I must assume we're just getting the dregs. In other words, the quality of your arguments must just go down from here. |
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Posted - 09/10/2005 : 23:42:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
I posted two more, but there are many more than that available. That makes you a liar.
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Please, show those "many more" pictures.
Nobody can confute my last statements, plastic shield and no star.
My reasonings are very logic and prove you never went to the moon.
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SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 00:40:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
And yet my ship was in a small, Naval fleet that was assigned to pick up one of the orbital capsuls. I saw it come down -- made a pretty good splash, it did..
Funny thing that: everybody was still alive.....
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Because that capsule was launched from an airplane of NASA's buffoons who have made joke of you.
Ok, let me if I've got this straight: Back in the mid '60s the Navy sent some 20 ships including an aircraft carrier to the splashdown rendevous all so that NASA could claim they had put humans in orbit, right?
Do you have any idea of what that costs in terms of dollars and military resources that could be put to use elsewhere? Obviously not.
And if the capsule was dropped from a plane, how was it done? It's too big and the wrong shape for a bombay and I'd doubt that they would roll it out of a cargo ramp while aloft. And further, the altitude the plane would have to fly at to avoid visual detection would make the whole thing highly dangerous -- not even the US Navy is that stupid.
Did they build a special aircraft, at Hypnotoad knows what cost, just for that? If that's your claim, prove it!
And how come the people on watch in the CIC shack never reported any radar contact with a plane at those altitudes around the time of the decent? The ship I was on was a small one, an LST, and that scuttlebutt would have spread like wildfire.
Until you can come up with something better than baseless claims, or at least come up with some evidential proofs that might make the claims less moronic, I'll have to conclude that the only buffoon here is you.
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 05:39:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Ok, let me if I've got this straight: Back in the mid '60s the Navy sent some 20 ships including an aircraft carrier to the splashdown rendevous all so that NASA could claim they had put humans in orbit, right?
Do you have any idea of what that costs in terms of dollars and military resources that could be put to use elsewhere? Obviously not.
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Do you have any idea of what A REAL HUMANS' LANDING ON THE MOON costs in terms of dollars and military resources that could be put to use elsewhere? Obviously not.
Maybe they used a big helicopter to realize splashdown.
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 05:56:12 [Permalink]
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I have seen again this picture
Things have gone this way:
NASA's buffoons decide to realize a credible picture with a credible sun.
They take a picture without framing the real sun in that desert place, then fake horizon.
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to be continued
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 07:37:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Ok, let me if I've got this straight: Back in the mid '60s the Navy sent some 20 ships including an aircraft carrier to the splashdown rendevous all so that NASA could claim they had put humans in orbit, right?
Do you have any idea of what that costs in terms of dollars and military resources that could be put to use elsewhere? Obviously not.
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Do you have any idea of what A REAL HUMANS' LANDING ON THE MOON costs in terms of dollars and military resources that could be put to use elsewhere? Obviously not.
Maybe they used a big helicopter to realize splashdown.
But the cold, hard and undeniable fact remains: the helocopter would still have to fly high enough to be visually undetectable -- these ships were on station and prepared a couple of days before the event. Can/do helocopters fly that high? I don't know much about them except that I won't ride in another one of the miserable, fucking things, but as I seem to recall, they're not very well designed for great altitudes. And where might that aircraft and it's nefarious cargo be based? Not aboard the on-station carrier, I assure you. The crews on carriers are huge, so that would be a worse-kept secret than Brittany Spears' lost virginity.
And still, there was no aircraft blip on the radar, which can certainly seek that high, and there were a lot of radars doing just that.
If it's any help, there were a fair number of helocopters fluttering about after the splashdown....
I do indeed have an idea of how much the moon landings cost. Hell, it was published in the media, ad nauseum, at the time and I've little doubt that the sums can be found on line, with a bit of search. And thus I ask yet again: if the landings were faked, where'd all that money go?
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 08:51:40 [Permalink]
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to be continued
But why? It must be obvious by now that Bigbrain has absolutely no critical thinking abilities. He has not once backed down from a single claim that he has made in the face of evidence to the contrary, simple and easy to grasp reasoning and common sense. Now he says that a helicopter might have used to “realize splashdown”. He has gone from being just plain wrong to being stupidly absurd in defense of his delusional claim to a 50-year-old conspiracy by NASA.
Like creationists, Bigbrain is so committed to his belief that he is impervious to correction. There will never come the time when Bigbrain says something like “oh, I see what you are saying. Perhaps I should revise my thinking on that point.” After three threads he has not altered even one claim or conceded to the unlikelihood of his outright speculations on things like the possibility that NASA used helicopters to drop capsules for recovery that were never really in space.
Bigbrain lacks humility. It is one of the ironies of those who have cornered the “truth” that in their willingness to point out the mistakes of others, there is a complete unwillingness to consider the possibility that they may be mistaken. Bigbrain, like any other religious fanatic, is blind to his own nature. In science all conclusions are tentative. Not so with folks like Bigbrain. None of his conclusions or speculations are tentative. He knows…
If this ridiculous discussion goes on for another three threads, I predict (and this is not much of a prediction) that Bigbrain will never concede a point. He can't. Like all who harbor such thoughts, his delusions are a part of who he is.
So now he has discovered how to use large fonts to make his points. He is now doing the forum equivalent to yelling. Childish? Yes. Surprising? No. If you can say it loud enough and often enough people will listen, right? Fucking baby…
Bigbrain, you only exist as a plaything for those willing to respond to you. Make no mistake about it. Not one single person here takes you seriously. Is this really working for you?
As for myself, I am trying to figure out the pathology that makes people like you tic. I am interested in nutballs. And you certainly qualify. I am interested in doing a psychological profile of conspiracy nuts in general. You may become my poster boy for that. Of course, there are folks like David Icke who are way up on my list too. He is convinced that six foot alien lizards are controlling the earth. And he has a fairly large following which may make him much more interesting than you are…
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 11:47:58 [Permalink]
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I have seen again this picture
Things have gone this way:
NASA's buffoons decide to realize a credible picture with a credible sun.
They take a picture without framing the real sun in that desert place, then fake horizon.
Someone notices that the sun is not in the right position.
NASA's buffoons invente that this picture is a photo-puzzle.
Dear filthy and Kil, here we are like in a law-court.
I support my reasonings and you defend your opinions, but the people who read us must decide if I'm right or wrong, not you
By the way, is there any picture that shows astronauts while they come out from the capsule?
Please, show them to me.
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filthy
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 12:17:53 [Permalink]
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If that court comes to it's conclusions based upon fact and logic, bigbrain, you will surely lose your case.
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 12:53:23 [Permalink]
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I have found this picture:
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
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That could be the big helicopter that transported the capsule for splashdown.
The sky is cloudy and above clouds a helicopter can hide easily.
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filthy
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:14:35 [Permalink]
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I have found this picture:
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
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That could be the big helicopter that transported the capsule for splashdown.
The sky is cloudy and above clouds a helicopter can hide easily.
Not from radar...
And I have found the picture you have requested:
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:34:07 [Permalink]
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Not from radar...
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Maybe some radars have "seen" that big helicopter
but it didn't matter because all were waiting for splashdown of capsule.
This picture shows the truth of my reasonings
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
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filthy
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 13:49:30 [Permalink]
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Not from radar...
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Maybe some radars have "seen" that big helicopter
but it didn't matter because all were waiting for splashdown of capsule.
So, among other topics, I see that you know doodly squat about naval operations and procedures. If the radars had seen such a thing, an intruder into a tightly operational and highly secured zone, and they certainly would have if such had existed, the fleet would have gone to battle stations.
We did not go to battle stations -- when are you gonna wake the fuck up and smell the bacon?
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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