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Espritch
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USA
284 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2001 :  20:20:47  Show Profile  Visit Espritch's Homepage Send Espritch a Private Message
I got a rather peculiar e-mail yesterday. This was apparently in response to a message I posted on another board concerning the similarities of fundametalist Islam and fundamentalist Christianity (that'll teach me to be more careful where I post ).

The e-mail is essentially a creationist screed complete with garbled syntax, bad spelling (you'd think the guy could master a simple spell checker), and the usual creationist illogic. What makes it new (at least to me) is that this Creationist isn't thumping the Bible, he's thumping the Qur'an. Now that's scary!

I considered sending a reply but decided that it would be a> pointless, and b> potentially dangerous. Here's a sample for your reading pleasure (is that the proper word for that sensation you get when you pick at a scab? ):
quote:

==============================

CARL SAGAN = DONKEY

RICHARD DAWKINS = DOG

==============================

Hello You see this but PLEASE DO NOT ASK any question such as who wrote this
table. Because no one wrote it. It was written by itself by random
electrical shocks.

About a week along I was not at home. I forgot my computer was on. Our
electricity has a problem. The voltage is some times high, sometimes low.
This caused small electric shocks to the computer. So this caused same files
to occur. Like mutations and this caused for these letters to come into
being. So the table occured. As the sun energy caused to life arrose the
electric energy caused to these letters to write this. We may call it
electronical evolution caused bu random physical rules.

Yes we can witness physical evidence of evolution easily. Everything is
evolving. This is scientific. Sience explains inevedible evidence of
evolution.

You may be aware of the great book of Richard Dawkins " The Blind Watch
Maker ". In this book Prof Dawkins says " Even if you see a statue shaking
her hand to you, do not regard this as a miracle. Very small probablity but
the atoms on the arm of the statue can act and the statue may be seen as if
it is shaking her hand." As we witness here Dawkins is extremely rigth.

Here are the transforms of Carl Sagan. The wirter of the book called Cosmos.
Yes as we examine Materialistic Science we find new evidence of evolution.
We can only cope with other dogmas providing that we learn THE FACT OF
EVOLUTION.

1 - . e i. o . h.i*
3- i e L . o.N .h.ik*
4 - i .LS,o .N - qOrK,q
5- C.rL StG*N = DOnKeY
6- CarL SAGaN = DONKeY
7- CARL SAGAN = DONKEY

The letters could evolve so. Since the DNA in the retina tissuse could be
written by chences, it is much more possible for these Letters to occure by
electrical mutations.

CHALLANCE TO ALL DOGMAS! EVOLUTION EXPLAIINS EVERYTHING. NONE OF THE
MATERIALIST SCIENTIST WON'TALOW CREATIONIST DOGMAS ANYMORE.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course this is one of the theory for the life to start on the earth. If
you are interested in Creationism.
Please read the essay below:
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IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, THE BENEFICENT, THE MERCIFUL



It just goes on and on...and on like that. Standard creationist claptrap with a liberal sprinkling of quotes from the Qur'an, complete with warnings of the impending end of the world and Allah's final judgement on us all.

Lisa
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USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2001 :  21:10:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Someone must be pulling our e-mail addresses off the boards. I got the same e-mail. I've gotten some bible-thumping ones too. After several from the same address, I replied:
"I don't know where you obtained my address, but I do not agree with your philosophy. Any discussion between us would be pointless. Please remove my address from your e-mail lists"
Believe it or not, never heard from them again.
Lisa

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
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@tomic
Administrator

USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2001 :  21:54:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
Ugh, how tragic to be that individual.

When I implement new forum code it will allow anyone to hide their email address if desired.

@tomic

Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!
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Trish
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USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2001 :  23:41:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
Gee, I got the same email too. I was wondering if they were pulling the email from here.

Oh well.

Go to: www.thewaronfaith.com and look at the hell mail - there is one that is from the same individual that I received a couple weeks ago, (tho, he's had it much longer on his site - I just recognized it).

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying." ~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

Edited by - Trish on 10/26/2001 23:44:18
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Lisa
SFN Regular

USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  10:56:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
quote:

When I implement new forum code it will allow anyone to hide their email address if desired.

@tomic

Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!


That would be a nice, but I doubt it will help very much. I think most of us here are on more than one board.
I think I showed remarkable restraint with my reply to the fundie spam mail. I mean, a mail that says I and "my kind" need to believe in god, the bible, we all have loose morals, our beliefs are wrong...sheesh!
If I'd been a little crankier that day, it probably would have read:
"Thank you for your timely letter. Did I say timely? What an understatement! It saved me from making one of those little social faux pas that do nothing except leave all parties embarassed. As the Regional Director for the Atheist Ladies with Huge Knockers, I was just on my way to your house, and....."
Lisa

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PhDreamer
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  10:58:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
I got the same email. I figure it must be someone lurking at this board because it is the only one on which I post and the only registration that uses my ISP email rather than my Yahoo mail account.

This signature does not exist.
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James
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  12:33:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
quote:
...Ladies with Huge Knockers...


Huge knockers????

Anyway, I'm surprised you didn't flame-broil his arse. Would serve him right.

"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
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Lisa
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USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  13:15:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
quote:

Anyway, I'm surprised you didn't flame-broil his arse. Would serve him right.


Almost too tempting for words. Actually, I did have a snide and highly insulting reply typed out, and then my evil twin came in and sent out the "do not bother me" one.
If I receive another one, or happened to save the last one, I'll open up a new folder: "annoying fundie e-mails". If nothing else, its good for a laugh.
Lisa

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
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Tokyodreamer
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USA
1447 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  19:10:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
hehe I got that one too. Strangest email I've ever received.

There was no address in the TO: field, however. It was blank.

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Victory Not Vengeance
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Zandermann
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USA
431 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  19:32:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
quote:
... I figure it must be someone lurking at this board ...
I'm feeling left out...I didn't get this email. Perhaps it's not this board after all.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."
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Lisa
SFN Regular

USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  19:46:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
quote:
I'm feeling left out...I didn't get this email. Perhaps it's not this board after all.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."


Well Z, take your pick. How many of us are on BA, JREF, FACT, Internet Infidels, WeirdCrap, StraightDope?
Lisa

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Zandermann
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USA
431 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2001 :  19:50:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
quote:
... How many of us are on BA, JREF, FACT, Internet Infidels, WeirdCrap, StraightDope?
I'm only on 2 of those...working two jobs has really cut into my internet time!
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Lisa
SFN Regular

USA
1223 Posts

Posted - 10/28/2001 :  03:51:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Okay so you're on two of the forums. I'm on three of them. Someone can get our e-mail addresses. I guess its no different than the rest of the spam I get. Hello delete button. I guess I just don't understand why these people feel the need to send the stuff to me in the first place
Lisa

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.

Edited by - Lisa on 10/28/2001 12:01:17
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Mespo_man
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USA
312 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2001 :  06:10:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mespo_man a Private Message
quote:

It just goes on and on...and on like that. Standard creationist claptrap with a liberal sprinkling of quotes from the Qur'an, complete with warnings of the impending end of the world and Allah's final judgement on us all. [Espritch]



Could someone bring up to speed, please? Does the Qur'an have the same kind of Doom-and-Gloom-but-here-comes-Allah type of curtain call that Revelation has in the Bible? I thought that the Apostle John had the exclusive scoop on the End Times. Well, at least you would have thought so listening to his press agent.

(:raig
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Trish
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USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2001 :  04:47:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
quote:

quote:
... I figure it must be someone lurking at this board ...
I'm feeling left out...I didn't get this email. Perhaps it's not this board after all.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."



Ah - but your not an atheist and that might be why. No reason sending this type of junk to someone who believes in god. All this is designed to re-convert us back to religion. Any religion is generally considered better than none.

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying." ~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2001 :  06:36:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:

quote:

quote:
... I figure it must be someone lurking at this board ...
I'm feeling left out...I didn't get this email. Perhaps it's not this board after all.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."



Ah - but your not an atheist and that might be why. No reason sending this type of junk to someone who believes in god. All this is designed to re-convert us back to religion. Any religion is generally considered better than none.

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying." ~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.



That sounds reasonable. I didn't get one of these letters either.

[joke]
Yeaaaaas friends. The poooower of Gawd will enter your hearts. Put you hand on the TV. Put your hand on the TV. Be Heeeeeeealed!
Now this ministry needs you to geeeeeeve!
[/joke]

Couldn't resist. Sorry.



Edited by - valiant dancer on 10/30/2001 06:37:24
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