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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 10/24/2005 : 01:31:09 [Permalink]
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Socky's acronyms
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One might also add "Utter garbage," like all acronyms except "WTF."
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 02:52:41 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Actually, the U.S. Government cannot, by law, own any copyrights. All works produced by the government (including NASA) are public domain.
Does that include everything that is published on NASA website? Like amateur-astronomer pictures published there?
Anyway, thanks Dave! I didn't know about that the Government and Public Domain. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 02:54:35 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
Socky's acronyms
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Excellent haiku!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 08:32:41 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Does that include everything that is published on NASA website? Like amateur-astronomer pictures published there?
That's a good question. I suspect not.quote:
Anyway, thanks Dave! I didn't know about that the Government and Public Domain.
It's an effect of the whole "we the people" thing. Government work is done at the behest of the citizenry, so therefore the government can't claim ownership. How's it work in Sweden?
Oh, Trish: no apologies necessary, I just happened to see the link post before bbbb posted his cut-and-paste from it. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 08:53:41 [Permalink]
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| So... does that mean I can freely use images from NASA? (such as Earth seen from space, lunar surface, etc) |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 13:16:27 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Government work is done at the behest of the citizenry, so therefore the government can't claim ownership. How's it work in Sweden?
I think so, but honestly, I don't know for sure.
It's not like they have anything of interest to copy... |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 13:20:57 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
So... does that mean I can freely use images from NASA? (such as Earth seen from space, lunar surface, etc)
Yes, I guess so, unless they are marked as taken by photographer. A member of my astronomy-club has a couple of photos of Hale-Bopp published by NASA. Very nice pics. I'll ask him if NASA said anything about waving copyrights for them. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 14:10:41 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
So... does that mean I can freely use images from NASA? (such as Earth seen from space, lunar surface, etc)
Yes, I guess so, unless they are marked as taken by photographer. A member of my astronomy-club has a couple of photos of Hale-Bopp published by NASA. Very nice pics. I'll ask him if NASA said anything about waving copyrights for them.
I was thinking more along the lines of Hubble heritage images... it's because sometimes I want to do something with, say, the Earth in the background rather than a random planet, and it'd be neat if it were the Earth itself, rather than a rendition. |
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markie
Skeptic Friend
Canada
356 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 19:58:37 [Permalink]
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You guys may like to read the following, which implicates that Dick Cheney had the means, motive, and opportunity to be the prime suspect in the 9-11 case. Cheney, and not President Bush was playing the role of commander and chief while the events of 9-11 unfolded.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml
A portion: quote:
Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11. (Click here for a summary of these points)
Motive - Peak Oil: At some point between 2000 and 2007, world oil production reaches its peak; from that point on, every barrel of oil is going to be harder to find, more expensive to recover, and more valuable to those who recover and control it. Dick Cheney was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, "will not end in our lifetime." (Click here for a summary of these points)
Opportunity - 9/11 War Games: The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney's management. (Click here for a summary of these points)
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 20:05:29 [Permalink]
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| In response to Mab and Siberia, I believe that the Hubble shots released by NASA have already served their purpose for those who took them for research and are public domain. But for confirmation, you might ask the question at www.badastronomy.com If anyone knows, it'll be Phil, or he should be able to find out. But I think this came up in a converstation over there a couple years ago. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 19:26:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by markie
You guys may like to read the following, which implicates that Dick Cheney had the means, motive, and opportunity to be the prime suspect in the 9-11 case. Cheney, and not President Bush was playing the role of commander and chief while the events of 9-11 unfolded.
I might believe it if I could find any evidence that the Secret Service is ever a part of the U.S. Command and Control structure outside of its role in NSSEs, of which 9/11 was not one. |
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breakballs
Sockpuppet
53 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 10:47:25 [Permalink]
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Who was able to fake moon landing might have faked 9/11 attack.
Excuse me, but you are seeing the two Towers being on fire and don't you do anything for a long time?
Why didn't you throw water on the flames with Canadairs and helicopters used to extinguish the flames?
Didn't you have Canadairs and helicopters?
You went to Saturn, Mars, Titan, you hit a comet but you didn't go above the Towers with Canadairs and helicopters to extinguish the flames.
Are you idiot?
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 10:53:40 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
Who was able to fake moon landing might have faked 9/11 attack.
Excuse me, but you are seeing the two Towers being on fire and don't you do anything for a long time?
Why didn't you throw water on the flames with Canadairs and helicopters used to extinguish the flames?
Didn't you have Canadairs and helicopters?
You went to Saturn, Mars, Titan, you hit a comet but you didn't go above the Towers with Canadairs and helicopters to extinguish the flames.
Are you idiot?
Don't you have an appointment to be condescending and rude somewhere else or is that not until 4? There's a tour bus leaving in half an hour, be under it.
Extreme wind shifts and currents prevent helicopters from manuvering close to burning buildings of this size for fire suppression. I've had about enough of your pointless and unevidenced conjecture. |
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breakballs
Sockpuppet
53 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 11:03:21 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Extreme wind shifts and currents prevent helicopters from manuvering close to burning buildings of this size for fire suppression. I've had about enough of your pointless and unevidenced conjecture.
Look at images and movies of 9/11 attack.
There was no wind, don't talk nonsense. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
1536 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 11:32:24 [Permalink]
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Mr. Subliminal says:
As you are the BEST (never even been in a helicopter) HELICOPTER pilot in the world, BREAKBALLS (actually he's BIGBRAIN), I am sure you know (doesn't have a clue) there are extreme convection currents around fires.
Thanks for your (useless) input and I hope (a bird craps on your head) you have a nice day.  ( )
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