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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/21/2005 :  19:26:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Wouldn't it be better to manufacture the nanotube in space and lower it down from orbit, down to where ever the ground-station will be?
That's the "classic" idea: start with a large satellite at geosynchronous orbit. Then, simultaneously extend the elevator "substrate" both towards Earth and away, in a "balanced" fashion which keep the center-of-gravity of the system at the satellite itself.

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markie
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  12:18:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send markie a Private Message
Here's an update: Since there was no robotic climber that climbed all the way up the cable there was no prize money. Bummer. Perhaps if they had used lasers instead of just spotlight there may have been better results. Until next year...

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MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Oct. 24 (UPI) -- It sounds like science fiction, but a competition was held during the weekend for the design of a "space elevator."

A three-day competition at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif., ended Sunday, but with no winner.

Competitors tried to design a "space elevator"' -- a platform rising above the Earth's atmosphere along a super-strong ribbon of carbon nanotubes. The elevator would carry cargo into space at a much lower price than do rockets today.

The seven "robot climbers'' entered in the competition didn't ascend more than a few dozen feet up a tether attached to a giant crane, the San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News reported, therefore none performed well enough to win the $50,000 grand prize.

But the Mercury News noted the competitors broke a barrier of sorts by proving the idea is not just science-fiction fantasy.

Two teams developed space elevators that were able to rise along the tether using power converted from spotlights.

"It was amazing to watch these silent machines gliding on light,'' said Marc Schwager of the Spaceward Foundation, which organized the competition. "Two college teams came in and showed industry how to build a space elevator."

Copyright 2005 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.


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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  16:20:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Laser isn't very efficient to start with, I suppose that's why it was opted out.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  16:27:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
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Wouldn't it be better to manufacture the nanotube in space and lower it down from orbit, down to where ever the ground-station will be?



What Dave_W said.. and:

That is how they would get the initial ribbon into place. After that the ribbon would be expanded by smaller "crawlers" which would add more strands.


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  16:37:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
I wonder why the fundies haven't already decried the effort to build a space elevator another doomed "Tower of Babel?"


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Randy
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Posted - 10/24/2005 :  17:23:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

I wonder why the fundies haven't already decried the effort to build a space elevator another doomed "Tower of Babel?"





Right after the I.D./Evolution trial in Pennsylvania, maybe that's next on their to-keep-dumbing-down-society things to do list.

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