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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  09:13:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by breakballs

Have you seen how it's easy to swindle people?

Yes, it's apparently so easy they don't even have to do it!

quote:
I hope my country will never swindle.

Would it matter to you if they did or not?

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
Edited by - Maverick on 11/04/2005 09:14:49
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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  09:21:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

It already has. It aids, abets, and supports the Vatican, doesn't it? That's got a swindle comparable in sheer magnitude to none other in the world.

I think we should move the entire Vatican to some other place, if there's anyone who wants them.

quote:
Someone correct me if I haven't got the straight skinny on this -- I haven't been paying very close attention -- but aren't the Italians involved in the EU's space efforts?



They're one of the big contributors to the ESA (which isn't an agency under the EU, for good or bad) and I'm sure there have been Italian astronauts in space. In a few years I hope that ESA will achieve independent manned space access after building the Kliper together with Russia and possibly Japan.

"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan
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furshur
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USA
1536 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  10:19:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Italian astronaut baffoon swindles us like craps!!
quote:
Italian astronaut heading for new heights


He may be ESA's youngest astronaut but Roberto Vittori's military training and flying experience have prepared him well for his mission to the International Space Station.

http://www.esa.int/esaHS/ESADN2G18ZC_astronauts_0.html



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2005 :  11:11:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I'm sure Da Vinci is rolling in his grave...

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 11/04/2005 :  13:12:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message



"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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breakballs
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53 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  13:52:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send breakballs a Private Message
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/hubble_moon.html

Hubble Prospects For Resources on The Moon

America has always been a land of pioneers, from the first settlers to those who moved west in the 1800s. As they started their new lives in new places, these men and women had to learn to live off of the land.

Now, the U.S. is planning another pioneering journey, this time to the moon and beyond. To prepare, NASA scientists are using the Hubble Space Telescope to hunt for resources, such as oxygen, that are essential for people to survive and to sustain their existence on the lunar surface. Hubble's preliminary observations and results are promising.

Oxygen on the lunar surface?
NASA buffoons are incredible swindlers: "resources, such as oxygen, that are essential for people to survive and to sustain their existence on the lunar surface".
Lunar surface is really a good place where NASA buffoons could live, they could cultivate pop corn directly with the heat of the sun.



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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 11/04/2005 :  14:01:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message


If there is water ice on the moon, and there have been some indications of it, then there is oxygen.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Paulos23
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2005 :  14:24:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by breakballs



Oxygen on the lunar surface?




That is in the lunar surface, not on. Read further into the artical please.

And why not get oxygen from the rocks? If there is a way to do it easly on the moon surface, then that would be the first step to "living off the land" and cut down on expensive supply trips from earth. In this case, literaly breathing in the land.

You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  15:46:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
Hey quad-b, how about this one:

quote:
Satellite in my eyes
Like a diamond in the sky
How I wonder
Satellite strung from the moon
And the world your balloon
Peeping Tom for the mother station

Winter's cold, spring erases
And the calm away by the storm is chasing
Everything good needs replacing
Look up, look down all around, satellite

Satellite headlines read
Someone's secrets you've seen
Eyes and ears have been
Satellite dish in my yard
Tell me more, tell me more
Who's the king of your satellite castle?

Winter's cold, spring erases
And the calm away by the storm is chasing
Everything good needs replacing
Look up, look down all around, hey satellite
Rest high above the clouds; no restriction
Television we bounce 'round the world
And while I spend these hours
Five senses reeling
I laugh about the weatherman's satellite eyes

-Dave Matthews, Satellite



Buon, no?

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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breakballs
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53 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2005 :  05:19:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send breakballs a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

If there is water ice on the moon, and there have been some indications of it, then there is oxygen.





Very well, your astronauts will be able to breathe deeply water ice and lunar surface seems very fertile and fruitful.
Who knows? Maybe there are Indians too.



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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2005 :  14:52:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
BigBrain, go back and finish junior high-school.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
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breakballs
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53 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2005 :  09:22:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send breakballs a Private Message


CIA (Central Idiot Agency) gave a wrong acronym: you had to make war against IRAN, not IRAQ.


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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2005 :  09:27:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
Well that's not even relevant.

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Siberia
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Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2005 :  10:47:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Darlings, may I appeal to the collective sanity and please ask that ya'll ignore quad-b?

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2005 :  12:04:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

Darlings, may I appeal to the collective sanity and please ask that ya'll ignore quad-b?


But...., but we are so close to a break-through!



Surely you don't want us to suspend treatment now....


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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