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furshur
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 Posted - 11/02/2005 : 14:35:47 [Permalink]
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Damn Filthy I'm at work, you need to warn me if your going to be posting babes. Boy she has nice eyes eye, doesn't she.
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breakballs
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 13:23:44 [Permalink]
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Have you seen how it's easy to swindle people?
A rocket that starts, a capsule that is already on the ground, two Chinese that come out from the capsule and the joke is made: you believe two Chinese astronauts went to space.
Also some Italian astronauts could go to space this way.
I hope my country will never swindle.
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Chippewa
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 13:58:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by breakballs
When can you say a spacecraft is in space?
When it is in space. The "Karman line" is about 100 km above the ground and is considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.
Anyone who can manage to get above 80 kilometers can consider themselves an Astronaut.  |
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:03:17 [Permalink]
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May I ask what the title of this thread actually means?
Do you mean that the Chinese like NASA bufoons, as in:
"You know, we quite like NASA bufoons!"
or do you mean that they are like NASA bufoons, as in:
"You know, we are quite similar to NASA bufoons!"
Of all the bufoons in the world, NASA ones are really quite likable. Infinitely preferable to, say, italian helicopter pilot insane crackpot bufoons... |
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breakballs
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:13:50 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippewa
When it is in space. The "Karman line" is about 100 km above the ground and is considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.
This is another big nonsense. 100 km is a ridiculous distance: New York - Philadelphia? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:22:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
Have you seen how it's easy to swindle people?
A rocket that starts, a capsule that is already on the ground, two Chinese that come out from the capsule and the joke is made: you believe two Chinese astronauts went to space.
Also some Italian astronauts could go to space this way.
I hope my country will never swindle.
It already has. It aids, abets, and supports the Vatican, doesn't it? That's got a swindle comparable in sheer magnitude to none other in the world.
Someone correct me if I haven't got the straight skinny on this -- I haven't been paying very close attention -- but aren't the Italians involved in the EU's space efforts?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:27:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
quote:
Originally posted by Chippewa
When it is in space. The "Karman line" is about 100 km above the ground and is considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.
This is another big nonsense. 100 km is a ridiculous distance: New York - Philadelphia?
Okey-dokey, go up to 100 km in a baloon, stick your head out of the porthole, and take a big, deep breath of that sweet, fresh air...
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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breakballs
Sockpuppet
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:41:01 [Permalink]
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100 km is really ridiculous. With AutoCAD draw a circle of radius 6,300 and a vertical line of 100. Would a spacecraft be in space at that ridiculous distance?
Is this another NASA buffoons nonsense?
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:57:50 [Permalink]
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100 km is really ridiculous. With AutoCAD draw a circle of radius 6,300 and a vertical line of 100. Would a spacecraft be in space at that ridiculous distance?
Yes.
quote:
Is this another NASA buffoons nonsense?
No.
Idiot....
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Ricky
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 08:00:51 [Permalink]
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New York to Philly
One hundred kilometers
All downhill, both ways.
Hey, space has to start somewhere and sixty miles up seems as good as any. Beebley, can you come up with a better place?
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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furshur
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 08:49:15 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
100 km is really ridiculous. With AutoCAD draw a circle of radius 6,300 and a vertical line of 100. Would a spacecraft be in space at that ridiculous distance?
Is this another NASA buffoons nonsense?
And you base this on...... what?
Your own delusions of adequacy?
Your own artifical definitions?
Your helicopter piloting skills?
The little green man in your pocket?
The anti-Christ which tells you things in your head?
Davinci laughing in your face?
The Italian government disassociating themselves from you due to your ignorance?
La Cosa Nostra threatening your parents?
There are treatments for what you are experincing. Please seek professional help.
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 08:51:38 [Permalink]
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| Space does have to start somewhere. For example, 400,000 ft (~120 km) is a common altitude used for reentry analysis. 100 km is fairly arbitrary, though the original idea as I understand it has to do with aerodynamic lift vs. drag - you definitely have the latter and you can generate the former at that altitude, but not with conventional aircraft. Airbreathing planes top out around 30 km, and balloons somewhere around there. Satellites can't maintain an orbit there due to drag. So there's an interesting gap between roughly 30 and 150 km altitude - about the only thing that can explore this area directly is the sounding rocket. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 09:01:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
Here is a handy-dandy baffoon chart.
http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/AltitudesChart.html
I'll be preemptive for B-cubed:
idiot.......
Somethings been picking away at my brain over this one. The language so similar. The attitude so familiar.
I think I've found it. bigbrain/breakballs is actually Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf.
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
Quick quiz, who said the following
"The Americans, they always depend on a method what I call ... stupid, silly. All I ask is check yourself. Do not in fact repeat their lies."
"I have detailed information about the situation . . . which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."
"They think we are retarded - they are retarded."
And for a change on one of MSS's quotes, "I triple guarantee you, there has never been Americans in space. Never."
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