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GeeMack
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USA
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 Posted - 11/01/2005 : 17:14:08
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Wow! The Democrats in the Senate finally show they have some balls. Of course it begs the question, what on Earth took them so long?quote:
Democrats Close Senate Doors in Iraq Protest...
Invoking a little used rule, Democrats temporarily shut down television cameras in the chamber, cleared galleries of reporters, tourists and other onlookers, forced removal of staff members and recording devices and stopped work on legislation.
"At its core, this is about accountability -- congressional accountability and White House accountability," said Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Democrats were pressing that committee to produce a report on whether the Bush administration misused intelligence on Iraq's weapons to justify the March 2003 invasion. No weapons of mass destruction were found.
Democrats said that report was a year overdue and vowed to close more sessions to pressure Republicans to produce it. "We're serving notice on them at this moment. Be prepared for this motion every day until you face the reality," said Senate Democratic Whip Richard Durbin of Illinois.
Republicans were outraged.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 17:59:30 [Permalink]
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This is a very good sign! Which republican wants to step up and spend their "political capital" now, bitches?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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NubiWan
Skeptic Friend
USA
424 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 21:30:24 [Permalink]
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A premptive strike.., wow, now whatever gave them that ideal?  |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 02:26:11 [Permalink]
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Outraged is just the way I like Republicans to be. Apoplectic is even better. If they are in high dudgeon, then the country is on it's way to recovery.
But if the track record of the Democrats is any indication, this might be just a flash in the pan.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 09:33:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
Outraged is just the way I like Republicans to be. Apoplectic is even better. If they are in high dudgeon, then the country is on it's way to recovery.
But if the track record of the Democrats is any indication, this might be just a flash in the pan.
I think the democrats smell blood. The media is turning on Bush. Bush numbers are terrible. A lot of the public perception of the Bush administration has changed in the last few months. And it isn't as though the Democrats are not aware of their own image expressed here but widely held, and I am sure they would like to change that. It's my opinion that they see their opening and can now act upon it with genuine public and media support. My gut is that this is no flash in the pan.
Better late then never...
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 11:20:27 [Permalink]
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Perhaps I've seen them roll tits-to-the-sky too many times and it's turned me cynical.
I certainly hope you're right.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 12:48:48 [Permalink]
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Frist the vidio diagnostition and Santorum the dogfucker do look a trifle miffed, don't they. Good deal!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 15:12:46 [Permalink]
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Chorus.-Awa' Whigs, awa'!
Awa' Whigs, awa'!
Ye're but a pack o' traitor louns,
Ye'll do nae gude at a'.
Our thrissles flourish'd fresh and fair,
And bonie bloom'd our roses;
But Whigs cam' like a frost in June,
An' wither'd a' our posies.
Awa' Whigs, &c.
Our ancient crown's fa'en in the dust-
Deil blin' them wi' the stoure o't!
An' write their names in his black beuk,
Wha gae the Whigs the power o't.
Awa' Whigs, &c.
Our sad decay in church and state
Surpasses my descriving:
The Whigs cam' o'er us for a curse,
An' we hae done wi' thriving.
Awa' Whigs, &c.
Grim vengeance lang has taen a nap,
But we may see him wauken:
Gude help the day when royal heads
Are hunted like a maukin!
Awa' Whigs, &c.
-- Robert Burns
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 01:54:26 [Permalink]
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| That stupid carrying on by Frist about the outrage was comical. I doubt the American public can even figure out what he was on about given it was just a closed door session from their viewpoint. The Republicans are making themselves look really bad by letting on the session was an attack on the credibility of the administration. If they had just kept their mouths shut the public would have paid very little attention. |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 03:22:05 [Permalink]
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Used Car Salesmen are 1000 times smarter than these self-serving boneheads!
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 11:09:57 [Permalink]
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| Finally, a political action that made me stand up and cheer! |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 13:38:43 [Permalink]
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It'll be a while before Miss Kitty Frist lives his idiotic, public whine & snivle down.
"Exxcelllent..." -- Montgomery Burns.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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vrwc
New Member
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Posted - 11/06/2005 : 10:42:36 [Permalink]
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| Senate shutdown by the Dems is "killing an gnat with a shotgun" approach and they will loose credibility every time they use it. They want to reinvestigate a topic that has been investigated by congress before. Dems just didn't like the outcome.They have a forlorn hope that repetition can alter reality. vrwc |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/06/2005 : 17:56:59 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by vrwc
They have a forlorn hope that repetition can alter reality. vrwc
Yeah. And there really are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq...
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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ronnywhite
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/06/2005 : 21:42:20 [Permalink]
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A couple of questions come to mind at this point. Kennedy was interviewed on a news program today, and confronted with video tapes of himself, Kerry, and other Democrats making statements to the effect that Sadaam Hussein had to be removed, and their support of the war was thereafter noted. I have to admit that his response as to "why" was unsatisfactory. Are they scapegoating a Republican administration, and their party, for any blame that might realistically be equally shared, if blame is to apply?
The Bush administration admits that the post-war planning was inadequate, but insists that progress has been made towards the stabilization of Iraq, and that a liberally-biased media has distorted a picture of progress by emphasizing bloodshed, various blunders which are bound to occur in any major effort (perfection never exists in war) including accounting questions, and logistical obstacles. Is there evidence that this could be the case?
Even Bill Clinton stated that he felt President Bush was sincere in believing his actions to be in the best interest of the United States, although they disagreed on issues. If President Bush isn't acting in what he considers the best interests of this country, what ARE his interests? What could his motives possibly be? |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2005 : 22:07:50 [Permalink]
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snip:
quote:
Originally posted by ronnywhite
If President Bush isn't acting in what he considers the best interests of this country, what ARE his interests? What could his motives possibly be?
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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