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PhDreamer
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2001 :  09:24:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
Talk about deception. I hated tomatos all my life, then I found out they were actually fruit. Like finding out Rush is a closet Democrat.


There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn't my fault, I swear to god! - Jake Blues
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Tokyodreamer
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USA
1447 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2001 :  10:34:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
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Talk about deception. I hated tomatos all my life, then I found out they were actually fruit.


I'm one of those people ("those people") who jump at the chance to point out what is really a fruit (you'd probably be surprised), among other inanities (it's "viruses", not "virii"!!!). Sure, it's annoying, but I find it highly entertaining!

Anyway, my wife sent me a link once (or showed me an article) where apparently in the early part of last century, the Supreme Court actually ruled that the tomato was a vegetable, or economic reasons, despite the fact that technically it is a fruit. I'll try to dig it up.

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Edited by - tokyodreamer on 11/13/2001 10:35:55
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Donnie B.
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Posted - 11/13/2001 :  11:57:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
The Reagan administration tried to make ketchup (catsup?) a vegetable, for nutrition purposes. Maybe they should have declared it "fruit juice" instead...


-- Donnie B.

Brian: "No, no! You have to think for yourselves!" Crowd: "Yes! We have to think for ourselves!"
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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 11/13/2001 :  12:20:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
LOL! I remember that. As I recall, there had been a push to increase funding for school meal programs. Someone had decided that lower income students probably weren't getting proper nutrition at home, so they wanted the school meals to provide more nutrition. IMO, the problem Reagan and his crowd had with the plan was that it would funnel money to the wrong end of the political and economic spectrum.
Lisa

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
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Tokyodreamer
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USA
1447 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2001 :  12:40:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
http://www.vegparadise.com/highestperch8.html

I was a bit off on the time. It was in the 19th century.

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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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Posted - 11/13/2001 :  12:57:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
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The Reagan administration tried to make ketchup (catsup?) a vegetable, for nutrition purposes.


"4 tablespoons of ketchup, about the amount you would eat with a order of frys, are the nutritional equivalent of an entire ripe medium tomato."

And it tastes better, too!

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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 11/14/2001 :  01:14:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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"4 tablespoons of ketchup, about the amount you would eat with a order of frys, are the nutritional equivalent of an entire ripe medium tomato."
And it tastes better, too!


Not quite so. Tomatos don't have added sugar and who knows what else that's in ketchup. As far as taste, well, if you like overly sweet and tart tomatos. No thank you, for me.


Rap Crap is to music what Paint by Numbers is to art.
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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/14/2001 :  03:44:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
I just don't understand why they think that it's a good idea to make ketchup so thick you can't get it out of the bottle without surgical tools.



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Tokyodreamer
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USA
1447 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2001 :  06:59:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
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I just don't understand why they think that it's a good idea to make ketchup so thick you can't get it out of the bottle without surgical tools.


This is why plastic squeeze bottles are the bomb.

Also, apparently the new multi-colored ketchups (green, purple, blue, and of course red) have a new kind of top that catches the watery yuckiness that accumulates at the top of the sauce.

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PhDreamer
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USA
925 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2001 :  10:15:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
quote:

quote:

I just don't understand why they think that it's a good idea to make ketchup so thick you can't get it out of the bottle without surgical tools.


This is why plastic squeeze bottles are the bomb.

Also, apparently the new multi-colored ketchups (green, purple, blue, and of course red) have a new kind of top that catches the watery yuckiness that accumulates at the top of the sauce.




Why is it the 'watery yuckiness' is so repulsive by itself but hardly warrants a second thought when mixed with the paste? I can't believe this stuff is so gross that we have to design special caps to keep it off our burgers.


There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn't my fault, I swear to god! - Jake Blues
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 11/22/2001 :  09:38:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
I just can't tell you how pleased I am to see that a poll on Skeptic Political Orientation has lead to a discussion of the viscosity of ketchup. I didn't vote when I saw the poll. I still haven't and I never will. You are making me very happy. Thanks!

The Evil Skeptic

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
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Grand Nubian
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USA
73 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2001 :  15:54:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Grand Nubian's Homepage  Send Grand Nubian an AOL message  Send Grand Nubian a Yahoo! Message Send Grand Nubian a Private Message
SelectSmart nailed me good too.

# 1 Anarchist
# 2 Leninist
# 3 Marxist
# 4 Socialist
# 5 Progressive
# 6 US Liberal
# 7 US Libertarian
# 8 US Conservative


I was about to post and ask why anarchist isn't on there. I almost chose libertarians just for the hell of it.

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gezzam
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Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2001 :  20:58:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
All I know is that we call it Tomato Sauce over this side of the world. Yes, we smother it on just about anything as well.

"Damn you people. Go back to your shanties." --- Shooter McGavin
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The Rat
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Canada
1370 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2001 :  21:45:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message
I went with liberalism.

Myself? I'm what Monty Python once described as a 'Neo-fascist, post-existential communist', but when pressed I will admit to being a militant centrist. Depends on whatever issue I'm approaching I guess.

Free speech; excercise it or SHUT UP!
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ljbrs
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USA
842 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2001 :  16:42:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ljbrs a Private Message
I voted *no bias* because a true skeptic would not pre-judge anything, but would question and evaluate everything before making up his/her mind. Otherwise, just what would the word *skeptic* mean?

ljbrs

"The only real way to reconcile science and religion is to set up something that is not science and something that is not religion." (H.L. Mencken)
Edited by - ljbrs on 06/12/2004 12:50:18
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