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Kil
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Posted - 11/18/2005 :  09:47:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by GeeMack:

Donald Rumsfeld certainly doesn't want to bring home the troops any more than do his partners in crime, Bush and Cheney. While in Australia yesterday cheerleading for his deluded boss, he made comments that show his vision is for a permanent occupation of Iraq.
quote:
Rumsfeld Rejects Growing Withdrawal Calls...

Rumsfeld said as Iraqi forces took more control of their own security, it would enable U.S. forces to be diverted to other assignments within Iraq.

"What you'll see over the period ahead is that the Iraqi security forces will be handed over responsibility for pieces of real estate, for certain types of missions and assignments," Rumsfeld told reporters after talks with Australian ministers.


Which just happens to be completely consistent with Rumsfeld's and Cheney's among others in the Bush administration stated support for a permanent base of operations to insure American interests (and seemingly by extension, all other nations best interest in that part of the world. Our nations interests being what is best for the world.) "Pax Americana." And they are not giving up on that fantasy. Given what we know now, (and because they had their chance) I can come to no other conclusion than that these guys are completely certifiable.

Here it is again:

All sourced from Wikipedia:

Pax Americana
quote:
The term Pax Americana is used by critics of U.S. policy to describe an effort they allege is made by the U.S. to suppress countries that do not cooperate with U.S. policy, but some supporters of American foreign policy also use the term, so it is not necessarily derogatory. For example, it appears repeatedly in a September 2000 document, Rebuilding America's Defenses, by the Project for the New American Century, widely regarded as a neoconservative think tank.


Project for the New American Century
quote:
The Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, is a Washington, DC based think tank. The group was established in spring 1997 as a non-profit organization with the goal of promoting "American global leadership". The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and FOX News regular. The group is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a non-profit 501c3 organization that is funded by the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Bradley Foundation. [1]

Present and former members include several prominent members of the Republican Party and Bush Administration, including Richard Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Ellen Bork (the wife of Robert Bork), Dick Cheney, Zalmay Khalilzad, Lewis Libby, Richard Perle, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. A large number of its ideas and its members are associated with the neoconservative movement. PNAC has seven full-time staff members, in addition to its board of directors.


[quote]Position on Iraq:
The 2000 Rebuilding America's Defenses report recommends improved planning and deployment in order to reduce the strain caused by enforci

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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headbasher
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Posted - 11/21/2005 :  15:29:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send headbasher a Private Message
arent you guys being a little harsh on the vp?
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 11/22/2005 :  01:24:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Gees, another banned poster. Is this the same guy with multiple names?

Cheney's latest speech was certainly monotone. Nothing new and certainly not stated in any kind of impressive way. I see Bush is claiming the Congress voted confidence in him by not accepting the immediate pull out language.

So why didn't the wimpy Democratic House members abstain?. That's what they should have done. I want new leaders, darn it.
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pleco
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Posted - 11/22/2005 :  06:14:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
They (the Dems) couldn't do anything other than vote Nay for politicial reasons. The midterms are coming, and they don't want to give any ammo to the fascistsRepublicans.

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 11/22/2005 :  09:19:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
beskeptigal:
Gees, another banned poster. Is this the same guy with multiple names?


Yes.

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Why not question something for a change?

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