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pleco
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Posted - 12/08/2005 :  10:36:07  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
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Paul Mirecki stepped aside on the recommendation of his colleagues, according to Barbara Romzek, interim dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.

"This allows the department to focus on what's most important -- teaching, research and service -- and to minimize the distractions of the last couple of weeks," Romzek said in a statement Wednesday after receiving Mirecki's resignation.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/08/creationism.professor.ap/index.html


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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 12/08/2005 :  11:00:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Subjectmatter a Private Message
It's a shame, but probably for the best in the end. I would have objected if he had been forced into it, but resigning his chair is probably the only way to cool the controversy around him, a controversy which is doing nobody any favours. Least of all himself - as has been demonstrated.

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filthy
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Posted - 12/08/2005 :  11:36:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
In all truth, I'm a little ambiviant about this guy. While I consider the course he was proposing a laudable one, the e-mails he wrote concerning it were uncalled for.

It is one thing for me to happily badmouth the fundies, but quite another for an educator to show such virilent bias. His point could have been made far better and more effectivly in the classroom.

That, to me, shows a certain lack of scholarship.


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ronnywhite
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Posted - 12/09/2005 :  00:30:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
Maybe... a tough call. If it had happened at Harvard, Stanford, Ann Arbor, etc. not that much of a big deal, if any, would have been made of it. The guy showed some guts, I have to givem' credit for that. But it seems he was out of touch with just how extremist and emotional about these things some folks are, and maybe of the public mindset at large, as well. Too much time in his ivory tower, I guess.

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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 12/09/2005 :  07:30:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
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Originally posted by filthy

In all truth, I'm a little ambiviant about this guy. While I consider the course he was proposing a laudable one, the e-mails he wrote concerning it were uncalled for.

It is one thing for me to happily badmouth the fundies, but quite another for an educator to show such virilent bias. His point could have been made far better and more effectivly in the classroom.

That, to me, shows a certain lack of scholarship.



Well, more than anything, it gives ammunition to those on the far right who love to demonize academia as not only secular, but outright hostile to religion-- Christianity in particular. While this guy is but one of the tens od thousands of PhDs in academia, his comments most certainly will be used by pundits and "religious" leaders to prove that their (outlandish) assertions are correct.

It's one thing to take on ID, but he should have known that the best way to have approached things in public and, for the time being, in private, would have been to keep quite about Christianity as a whole. Attack the IDers, but lay off of Christians-- even anonymous "fundies"-- until this blows over!
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filthy
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Posted - 12/09/2005 :  16:49:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
They might be starting to eat their own in KS.
quote:
GOP group pledges to disempower far right
By Scott Rothschild (Contact)

Thursday, December 8, 2005

Topeka — The split among Kansas Republicans widened Wednesday as a GOP group vowed to defeat “extremists” within the party, including several elected officials.

The Kansas Traditional Republican Majority said it would try to steer the GOP away from “the politics of hate and intolerance” and toward a more moderate agenda, chairman Andy Wollen said.

“We will no longer concede the good Republican name to extremist Republicans who push a narrow social agenda but lack any real solutions to the problems facing Kansas,” Wollen said.

But Charlotte Esau, executive director of the Kansas Republican Assembly, a conservative group, blasted the new organization.

“Based on what I've seen so far, this is not a Republican group. It's a liberal front group for Democrats who want to pretend they are Republicans so they can hoodwink the voters into electing candidates who will talk Republican before the election and vote Democrat once in office,” Esau said.


This could be fun to watch, The neocons and religiously insane seem to be slowly slitting their own, lying throats.



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Starman
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Posted - 12/12/2005 :  03:02:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
CNN : Resignation was forced
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Paul Mirecki, who remains a professor at the University of Kansas, said he had no choice when he signed the resignation letter, typed on stationary from the dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
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