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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  19:06:49  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
That's right, I said enternal!

I swear, I think we should be able to mathematically prove somehow that as belief in Christ goes up, use of spell checkers goes down.

I came across this chap after he posted this screed in the Talk Origin's feedback section for November:
quote:
This website is a joke, plain and simple, how can anyone concieve evolution is the cause for humankind. Wow, incredible imaginations. You seriously think that there is no purpose for us being here....What is the point of arguing evolution then...seems kind of Purposless dosen't it? Then your welcome page just made me laugh until my gut hurt. Your saying that your arguing both points, but there are articles only on evolution. A bunch of hypocrites. Your whole belief system is based on lies that were proven lies many years ago. With that said you need to read your Bible, and pay very close attention to what it says. Stop using text books to feed lies to our faithful kids and currupting them.

In His Service, Walter P. Karroll

As always, it was a toss up whether I should have posted this in the religion or humor folder. I ended up putting it into religion, because ignorance does get less funny the more you think about it.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie

Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/05/2006 19:16:59

Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  20:19:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Ignorance of that sort is downright scary, H.

From the Website:
Use the links to the right to navigate...
Uh, the links are on the left... I really hope I'm never near this guy in traffic. "Right turn only" will be met with certain destruction.

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  20:48:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
From the Website:
Use the links to the right to navigate...
Uh, the links are on the left...

Haha, that's just too perfect.

I just visited again and got a pop-up titled THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EVOLUTION...Only Variations of KINDS. that I don't think I got before. Not sure if the pop-ups are random or what. Anyway, on it he says:

quote:
Bible verses that disprove evolution--Keep in mind that the Bible has never, ever, been proven wrong... There are many scientific pieces of evidence that points toward God. All proof used to back up evolution has already been proven wrong so far, by scientist in different fields...Check it out for yourself.
Wow, one scientist working in several different fields managed to prove evolution wrong? Must be a busy guy...
quote:
Genesis 2:2--And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

God is telling us He (God) made the entire universe, in seven literal days.

Exodus 20:11--For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, hallowed it.

Yet another verse were God is telling us he created everything in 6 literal days.

Deuteronomy 32:4--He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Only a retarded god would use evolution to guide life. My God is a perfect God who created the heaven and the earth, sea, and everything in them. Evolution is cruel that uses the phrase "survival of the fittest". My Heavenly Father created His people (us) with a purpose, and anyone who believes otherwise will sadly see God's wrath, which is just and perfect.
Love that last bit. God isn't retarded, therefore evolution is false. How could I have been so blind?


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/05/2006 20:52:29
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GeeMack
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  20:53:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GeeMack a Private Message
There are two links to Skip Intro. One of them goes back to the intro. Pure brilliance. And apparently it's more important to the author to show off his Flash scripting prowess than it is to present his information. Sadly he doesn't succeed at even that. But regarding Dave W.'s comment about knowing left from right, it's probably better the fellow is at home butchering a web site than out driving and endangering the public.

His case against evolution, as much as I could reasonably stand to peruse on such a poorly produced web site, seems to be based on the same old *yawn* argument from incredulity. He can't believe that anything other than his delusion is true, therefore it isn't. Different day, same story.

These people remind me of the believers in UFOliens. Same old anecdotes copied and pasted. A tone of near begging that the world of science should finally believe them. After all they've repeated their stories so often they believe it themselves.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:18:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

I just visited again and got a pop-up titled THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EVOLUTION...Only Variations of KINDS. that I don't think I got before.
Looking at that page, I had to view the HTML source to figure out if my browser was screwing up. Nope:
<title>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EVOLUT</title>
The guy couldn't even be bothered to type the last three letters of "EVOLUTION" into FrontPage.

And it may not be his scripts that he's abusing:
// please keep these lines on when you copy the source
// made by: Nicolas - http://www.javascript-page.com
Might drop him a note to show him how his scripts are being mangled.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:23:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Bwahahahahaha!

I answered his little "If you were to die right now do you no know for sure if you would go to hHeaven?" questions as if I were "saved," and was rewarded with him telling me that I am number 37 of the saved. 37. Brilliant!

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:28:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Bwahahahahaha!

I answered his little "If you were to die right now do you no know for sure if you would go to hHeaven?" questions as if I were "saved," and was rewarded with him telling me that I am number 37 of the saved. 37. Brilliant!

Look what it says if you choose: "I want to spend eternity with satan and his angels.
quote:
You have rejected the free gift and instead have embraced the big lie, and the father of lies. He will use you, and use you up, and then he will kill you and take you to hell with him. There will not be any rock music or feeling of power there, only suffering and pain, only darkness and fire. If you can shake free of him for just a moment, call on the name of Jesus. I dare you to try it. He will meet you where you are and fill you with the peace you crave so much. EMAIL us if you would like to chat.
No rock music in Hell! WTF??? But that's the Devil's music!


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:28:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
You know, it's impossible to tell the subtle parody sites from the real thing anymore. I just went through the test again, playing a "Satanist," and got the following:
You have rejected the free gift and instead have embraced the big lie, and the father of lies. He will use you, and use you up, and then he will kill you and take you to hell with him. There will not be any rock music or feeling of power there, only suffering and pain, only darkness and fire.
No rock music? Will there be rock music in Heaven?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:29:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Posted just 11 seconds apart, H. I'm telling you, great minds think alike. What the heck is the deal in that other thread?!?

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GeeMack
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:33:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GeeMack a Private Message
And H. Humbert beats Dave W. to hell by 11 seconds! The winner gets this CD of top rock and roll hits. What? No rock music in hell? Damn!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:38:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
This guy was only "saved" last September 25th. No wonder there were so few other "saved" people with me.

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pleco
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  21:51:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I always wondered: if satan is the father of lies, then how does one know if the bible was NOT written by satan, to mislead people away from the true message. How does one "prove" the bible is the word of god? Because it says so? If satan is the master of lying, that is exactly what he would put in the bible. Becuase you get a warm fuzzy feeling when you pray/worship? Satan is the prince of the physical world - maybe he can manipulate the glands in your body to produce endorphins which make you feel good.

So how does one KNOW they aren't really worshiping satan?

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  22:54:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

You know, it's impossible to tell the subtle parody sites from the real thing anymore.
I think it just goes to show the sort of mentality you need to swallow this stuff. It's so simple-minded it might as well be a parody.

"Now, I know all you wild youngins think that hell is just one big party, but I'm here to tell y'all that it ain't all rye whiskey and lap dances. No, sirree. Hell ain't nuttin' but a lake of fire. And there will not be any rock music!"


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/05/2006 22:55:04
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  23:06:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Ok, I just read the guy's bio and I think we may have our answer:
quote:
Then on one day in November 2002 ( November 12 2002 to be exact) I decided to go out on a bike ride... I was talking [on a cell phone] for a few minutes when (I don't remember how, I have had amnesia about this incident to this day) a car swerved off the road and stuck me at 55-60 mph. [...] I shattered both my legs, sustained brain injury, broke my arm, suffered from severe nerve damage, and had extensive ear damage.
Something tells me the boy hasn't quite been the same since...


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/05/2006 23:06:57
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  00:40:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco
So how does one KNOW they aren't really worshiping satan?

If you really want to mess with their heads, ask them where unsaved pyromaniacs go when they die.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Randy
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  05:00:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
Ha! Here's the only two entries in his guestbook. Funny thing, I know Martin, the first one.....
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Page 1 of 1 pages. 2 total entries.


My name is: Martin
I am from:
Homepage:
My Email: mw_director@yahoo.com
Time visited: Tuesday January 3, 2006 7:36:46 PM
My message: It saddens me to see that some people in this day and age can be so superstitious, uneducated, ignorant and divorced from reality. You have my sympathies.



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My name is: Mark Layton
I am from: The Netherlands
Homepage:
Time visited: Wednesday December 28, 2005 6:47:38 AM
My message: Might I suggest you take St Augustine's advice to heart and ensure that your arguments are up to date and do not make a mockery of your faith ?

For example, the moon dust argument for a young earth is no longer used by creationist organisations like Answers in Genesis because it has clearly been shown to be wrong.

1 good argument is better than 1,000 bad ones.



"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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