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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 01/03/2006 : 13:16:29
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Here's something you don't see every day:
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Yesterday Gaetano Mautone, a judge in Viterbo, set a preliminary hearing for the end of this month and ordered Father Righi to appear. The judge had earlier refused to take up the case, but was overruled last month by the Court of Appeal, which agreed that Signor Cascioli had a reasonable case for his accusation that Father Righi was “abusing popular credulity”.
Signor Cascioli's contention — echoed in numerous atheist books and internet sites — is that there was no reliable evidence that Jesus lived and died in 1st-century Palestine apart from the Gospel accounts, which Christians took on faith. There is therefore no basis for Christianity, he claims.
Signor Cascioli's one-man campaign came to a head at a court hearing last April when he lodged his accusations of “abuse of popular credulity” and “impersonation”, both offences under the Italian penal code. He argued that all claims for the existence of Jesus from sources other than the Bible stem from authors who lived “after the time of the hypothetical Jesus” and were therefore not reliable witnesses.
Signor Cascioli maintains that early Christian writers confused Jesus with John of Gamala, an anti-Roman Jewish insurgent in 1st-century Palestine. Church authorities were therefore guilty of “substitution of persons”.
The Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius mention a “Christus” or “Chrestus”, but were writing “well after the life of the purported Jesus” and were relying on hearsay.
Anyone want to start up a book on how thisn'll come out, eh? Heh, I almost put it in humor... 
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
 Posted - 01/03/2006 : 14:28:52 [Permalink]
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quote:
I almost put it in humor...
I laughed :P
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 02:19:50 [Permalink]
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http://us.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/04/italy.jesus.reut/index.html quote:
"In my book, 'The Fable of Christ,' I present proof Jesus did not exist as a historic figure. He must now refute this by showing proof of Christ's existence," Cascioli said.
Sounds like a publicity stunt.
He is pushing his book. |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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JORUMR
New Member
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 14:02:10 [Permalink]
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Prove that A Creator does not exist
JORUMR
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 14:11:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JORUMR
Prove that A Creator does not exist
As soon as you prove that Zeus doesn't exist. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 14:15:46 [Permalink]
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| Or the little pink fat man at the center of Neptune controlling all that you see. |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 16:05:22 [Permalink]
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Prove that A Creator does not exist
Obviously, from the way in which you phrase your request, you do not understand the basic rules of logic and evidence.
If you make a positive claim, "god exists" for example, then the burden of proving that claim lies with you.
It doesn not fall to us to "disprove" your claim.
Unless you provide your own proof your claim is considered an unevidenced proposition. Claims made without evidence may be freely dismissed without evidence.
What that means, in laymans terms, is that if you make a claim and fail to provide the evidence to support it... your claim is automatically discarded as nonsense.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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