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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 01/31/2006 : 14:40:06
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While I was looking for information on Haldane's Dilemma (in this thread) it was time to visit Talk.Origins...
Since I'm not reading that site on a regular basis, I typed:
www.talkorigin.org without the 's' in 'origins'
That URL has been bought by "Jesus Christ Saves Ministries" and redirects to their website at http://jcsm.org/
It seems that Christians are not below prostituting their integrity by deception in order to sell their message about Jesus. And make a buck doing it (yes, there are plenty of ads on that page).
What they don't seem to realise it that people like me, who ended up there while looking for Talk.Origins, will be mightily pissed off by having Jesus forced up my face while I was looking for something that in their eyes is the opposite.
As if I'm not enough antagonistic against organised Christianity already, they are now adding fuel to the flames rather than cooling it off with water, foam, and CO2...
I'm really not surprised though, more and more Christians are displaying moral bankruptcy. Disingenuous tricks, misrepresentations, and sometimes even bald-faced lies to sell a message they claim as Truth that should be able to stand on its own. 
My distaste for churches and ministries grow each day, and I'm slowly getting more and more convinced that organised religion, and Christianity (and Islam) in particular are a menace to society and a threat to human civilisation.
I left them a "fan" mail where I in no uncertain terms stated my opinion about their stunt. If you go there, and decide to contact them to leave feedback, remember to scroll down at least a page to get past all the ads and shit to get to the feed-back form.
Now that I've gotten that out of my chest, I think I'll have a coffee. Sorry about my rant.
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verso
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 14:47:03 [Permalink]
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quote:
My distaste for churches and ministries grow each day, and I'm slowly getting more and more convinced that organised religion, and Christianity (and Islam) in particular are a menace to society and a threat to human civilisation.
Indeed! Menaces to society. Pedophiles, rapists, drug pushers, thieves, and now Christians who would go so far as to exploit a common url misspelling.
Maybe we should just herd them all over the edge of a cliff. Those dangerous lunatics!
Seriously, Dr. Mabuse, you sound like your foaming at the mouth. |
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verso
Skeptic Friend
USA
76 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 14:55:18 [Permalink]
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I should also note that it's interesting no one seems upset that pornagraphers do this contantly. If you want to complain something, complain about the people pushing real moral filth into the faces of little kids.
"hey mom, what is that man doing to the little pig?" |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 14:56:37 [Permalink]
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How about complaining about both? To some, both are the same in the level of moral filth.
But I forget, your version of morality is more right, right?
I predict that the response will be that I support pornography. |
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verso
Skeptic Friend
USA
76 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 15:06:12 [Permalink]
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yes pleco, that's EXACTLY what my response is going to be.
(that was sarcasm)
I don't mind the complaint - it's just the frothy-mouthed part that amuses me. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 15:27:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verso
I don't mind the complaint - it's just the frothy-mouthed part that amuses me.
Amuses you? Or upsets you? Because you didn't come across with a great deal of mirth.
And it is stupid that a christian organization would stoop to such a disingenuous trick because evolution has nothing to do with christianity. That they even consider evolution an evil that needs to be fought does more to illustrate the barbarity of their faith than a thousand anti-christian websites could manage.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 15:28:51 [Permalink]
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| Funny, isn't it, how people who claim to be spreading The Truth are so ready to use deception to do so? |
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Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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verso
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 15:34:42 [Permalink]
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Amuses you? Or upsets you? Because you didn't come across with a great deal of mirth.
Hmmm, let me double check.... ..
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I meant "amused."
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 16:17:20 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verso
I should also note that it's interesting no one seems upset that pornagraphers do this contantly. If you want to complain something, complain about the people pushing real moral filth into the faces of little kids.
"hey mom, what is that man doing to the little pig?"
People use this kind of argument now and then. It's the old "why are you wasting time/resources/emotional input/whatever on THIS when you could be spending more worthwile time/resources/emotional input/whatever on THAT (THAT which is SO much more important). There are two (or more?) problems with this argument:
1) You have no idea how much time the other person is spending on THAT.
2) If people only spent time on THAT, then we would have very few discussions on this planet. We would have one at a time, actually. And it would not be about pornographers using certain web-addresses, any more than it would be about christians using certain web-addresses. |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 16:55:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verso...
I should also note that it's interesting no one seems upset that pornagraphers do this contantly. If you want to complain something, complain about the people pushing real moral filth into the faces of little kids.
I'm trying to remember all the times groups of organized pornographers professed their righteousness and claimed that being truthful was part of their tenet. As dishonest as it might be for the non-superstitious to hijack a typoed web address, those who would spread a belief in their Christian terrorist imaginary pal are dishonest and hypocritical. Sounds like a sin for the religious folks and just good business for anyone else.
Pornography, nasty, ick. Will you just look at that picture of the dead guy hanging there with nails through his hands! And verso, wouldn't you like to share your bookmark of the URL with that man doing something to the little pig? 
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 17:24:17 [Permalink]
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Like my O'Reilly site that claims to be an Al Franken "official site".
The lies rule apparently chipped off that ol' tablet Moses got from the burning bush.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor allow gay people to live in peace. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 17:47:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verso
I should also note that it's interesting no one seems upset that pornagraphers do this contantly. If you want to complain something, complain about the people pushing real moral filth into the faces of little kids.
"hey mom, what is that man doing to the little pig?"
You're right. It's easy to misspell Pentecostal, perhaps I should register www.pentacostal.com and redirect it to Hustler, or Private.
When I've done that, I promise I won't complain. 
And I was very upset when I wanted to update my computer game "Wing Commander 4" and clicked "get update" in the game console and Explorer ended up at a porn-site.  (It could have been one of the Descent-games, it's been a while so I don't remember exactly what game it was.)
And besides, if I had a grievance about a game, I wouldn't post that grievance here but in a game forum. This is a skeptics forum where we discuss evolution (and religion), which makes this an appropriate forum. 
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Both spellings of pentecostal was aparently already taken.  |
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| Edited by - Dr. Mabuse on 02/01/2006 23:56:12 |
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trogdor
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 20:48:53 [Permalink]
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good God!!
this is outrageous! Not only are the adds thick, some of the bible leasons are sick!
one is titled "being 'poor' isn't so bad" and another gives 40 different things to hate! (it's entitled "hate these") |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 21:49:34 [Permalink]
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| I didn't scan that site thoroughly. Maybe it's another Landover Baptist? |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
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GeeMack
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byhisgrace88
Formerly "creation88"
USA
166 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2006 : 23:41:51 [Permalink]
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| Look...You shouldn't judge Christianity as a whole by some off the wall extremists who are not even using the Bible as there guide lines. I'm more than realistic enough to realize that there's some pretty loony "Christians" out there. But there are also some pretty wacky skeptics, and those are NOT the people that I look at to get my viewpoint of Skeptics as a whole. Please don't be naive enough to think that that brand of Christian is the mainstream. Don't let some crazy people, with crazier ideas be the represenative for me, and my fellow Christians. |
Indeed, if we consider the unblushing promises of reward and the staggering nature of the rewards promised in the Gospels, it would seem that Our Lord finds our desire, not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.-- C.S. Lewis |
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