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D_Thomas
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  20:03:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send D_Thomas a Yahoo! Message Send D_Thomas a Private Message
"If I'm not supposed to eat it, my body will reject it."
"Hey, this turkey is fizzy on my tongue...."
- 4 Kings
If we are to win, we must be able to operate in a disorderly environment.
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 02/18/2006 :  04:20:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
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Originally posted by Ricky

beskeptigal, you seem to be assuming that you can know when every square inch of your meat is cooked properly. This is hardly the case.
You better know your meat is cooked over every square inch, that's what a meat thermometer is for. Steak, however is not as much of a risk inside as poultry or ground meat. You need the outside of the steak to be well cooked.

If beef were slaughtered properly there wouldn't be nearly as frequent problems with those rare steaks. But they contaminate the meat with spilled intestinal and fecal matter. Eeewwwww! That means you have to kill any bacteria like e-coli that could be on the outside of a steak and throughout the ground meat. Put the thermometer in the burger to check it. Take your chances with the outside of the steak but I at least go for medium and not rare.

Poultry has salmonella throughout so it has to be fully cooked. Large poultry farms run as high as 80% infection rates according to some surveys. A thermometer is recommended but I think when it falls away from the bones that indicates fully cooked. Pork carries trichinosis so it has to be fully cooked.

However, Hawks has a good point I was not considering. Since I'm supposed to know that and had forgotten, I have to correct my bad advice. Heat stable toxins can survive 30 minutes of boiling water which is 50 degrees more than I cook meat to and I don't wait for 30 minutes to pass. So.....never mind don't let the staph bacteria grow on the food in the first place. Thaw the turkey in the fridge.

I've just printed myself a 5 page outline of staph bacteria types, diseases and toxins. I'm off to review my homework now.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 02/18/2006 04:21:24
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