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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 03/01/2006 : 02:51:13
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In an AP article on CNN.com ...
(http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/02/28/teaching.evolution.ap/index.html): quote:
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven -- the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories -- "from Quantum physics to Freud" -- in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 03:36:46 [Permalink]
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| Common sense is returning. Do you suppose the Bush spell has broken and all the Munchkins are coming to? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 10:20:35 [Permalink]
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B. spoke: quote:
Common sense is returning. Do you suppose the Bush spell has broken and all the Munchkins are coming to?
One can only hope you are correct. Logically, this sort of rejection should have happened long ago. But logic hasn't been operating in politics much of late, not even political logic.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:03:52 [Permalink]
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And another mole pops up in Nevada. Just can't whack 'em fast enough. I like the conspiracy aspect of this idiot's rationale.quote:
"I just want them to start telling the truth about evolution," Brown said. "Evolution has occurred, but parts of it are flat-out unproven theories. They're not telling students that in school."
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:16:25 [Permalink]
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beskeptigal said:
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Do you suppose the Bush spell has broken and all the Munchkins are coming to?
No. Bush is nothing more than a symptom.
The goals and agenda of this theocratic political movement have not changed much in decades. They continue to grow in power.
Yeah, Dover was a setback, and anything that has the words "intelligent design" will likely be rejected at this point.
But "creation science" had the same thing happen.
There will be another iteration, and it won't be long before we see it. They will change the code-word to something like "intelligent evolution" and change the spin to something like evolution can't possibly have occured without "intelligent" intervention.
It still doesn't change their basic position, which is to make room in science for "supernatural" explanations.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:18:30 [Permalink]
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| I was referring to some of the entranced Republican munchkins rather than the religious movement winged monkies. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:26:20 [Permalink]
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I was referring to some of the entranced Republican munchkins rather than the religious movement winged monkies.
There is a difference?
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:49:11 [Permalink]
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And another one births like a screw worm maggot in a hog's scrotum, in Nevada.
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CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - A proposed constitutional amendment would require Nevada teachers to instruct students that there are many questions about evolution - a method viewed by critics as an opening to teach intelligent design.
Las Vegas masonry contractor Steve Brown filed his initiative petition with the secretary of state's office, and must collect 83,184 signatures by June 20 to get the plan on the November ballot. To amend the Nevada Constitution, he'd have to win voter approval this year and again in the 2008 elections.
Amazing that a masonry contractor knows more about evolution than the biologists and geologists, and all them other 'oligists. Who'da thunk?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 16:55:47 [Permalink]
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filthy objected: quote:
Amazing that a masonry contractor knows more about evolution than the biologists and geologists, and all them other 'oligists. Who'da thunk?
They got a very high standard for masonry training in Nevada, maybe?
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2006 : 18:53:52 [Permalink]
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And another one births like a screw worm maggot in a hog's scrotum, in Nevada.
How very poetic, filthy.  |
If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know. |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 02:24:59 [Permalink]
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Filthy missed my post. Boo Hoo! I've been passed over.  |
| Edited by - beskeptigal on 03/02/2006 02:25:19 |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 03:03:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
Filthy missed my post. Boo Hoo! I've been passed over.
Damn! I didn't so much miss it as I simply spaced it out. Sorry 'bout that -- too much cheap, Mexican weed & homemade booze on top of fast approaching senile dementia. Or something.
But now, having had a little time to mull it over, I wonder if this one will fly even as well as the previous efforts, which, as we know, flew almost as well as the the Infinite Improbility Drive's sperm whale. A lot of ordinary folks are getting pretty fed up with hearing about it.
I look forward to the school board elections in KS.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 03:34:08 [Permalink]
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That's OK, I just missed HalfMooners. You do know I was kidding, I hope.
Once again here we are, the night owls. I'm done though for now. Can't keep my eyes open. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 12:55:10 [Permalink]
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filthy said: quote:
But now, having had a little time to mull it over, I wonder if this one will fly even as well as the previous efforts, which, as we know, flew almost as well as the the Infinite Improbility Drive's sperm whale. A lot of ordinary folks are getting pretty fed up with hearing about it.
I get the impression that the Nevada guy is pretty much by himself in his crusade, and working from tattered old Creationist pamphlets. Of course, even comic books have been the source of Creationst laws in the past.
I agree, this one's not likely to go far.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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