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telepathy
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 Posted - 03/26/2006 : 22:40:57
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It is wast of time and money if you don't know what have happened or changed when a paranormal is happenning. Some changes might be very slowly or quickly, or tiny, most of the paranormal claims were happened transitorily. It might confuse you to make sure if it is a truly phenomena. To test such phenomena indeed worthy all the skepticisms, and you might got nothing from research such phenomena.
A ghostly phenomena distinctly happens everyday almost everytime around me , perhaps such phenomena is more valuable compared to others.
When I lived in my hometown, most of my friend and neighbor found they often could see a naked body, just like a soul which has similar looks and build to human. But such phenomena can't be catched by any camera. They have such sight even when their eyes are closed. Is this just a hallucination? If it is, why a lot of people in different rooms who can't see each other have all the same sight at the same time?
As times gose, we find the soul speaks all the same words in my thoughts, include my privacy, never found any different, and, it dose all the same movement to mine. When I image a picture in my thoughts, people could see the picture(even when their eyes are closed). Further more, my freind and neighbor said they could exactly see all the objects and what was happening (even when their eyes are closed) in my dream when I was asleep. All such penomena happens naturally in everyday all most every minute.
How can we explain this? This is never a deceit or hallucination. In 1999 when I leave my hometown for a university to study, find people in my school also had such experiences when I'm not far from them. I'm now live in Taiyuan Shanxi province China, such phenomena also happens to people not far from me.
Is this caused by some souls? If it is, it means hundreds of souls which have all the same looks and build in different rooms do all the same things to mine at the same time. I don't think such explanation could explain the phenomena.
Aother assumed paraphrase to such phenomena is, there is a kind of signal which could cause people have sight(even when their eyes are closed) except the light, my body or brain could send out the signals naturally. All the vision of people see the soul, see my dream is caused by they perceive the signals send out from my body. I call the phenomena as telepathy. It is similar to the radio waves but also different from it. When people perceive my telepathic waves, they could exactly hear all the words and see all the pictures in my thougths even when their eyes are closed, and they could see a naked "soul" when there is no pictures in my thoughts. So far as I know, hundreds of people not far from me could perceive my thoughts at the same time. I never found a person could perceive others thoughts, and I can't perceive their thougths. I don't exactly know if the signal could mind control, at least it could control what you dream. When people not far from was asleep, they could exactly dream my thoughts at a high probability.
If my assumed explanation is ture, it means we discover a unknown signal which could cause human have sight except the light. Such signal send out from my brain or body, it brings my thoughts and body moving information. To study such signal might be a practical and economic way to research how human brain works and how energy works in human body.I can't explain the phenomena more unless under the help of human biologists and physics scientists.
I hope someone will help me, introduce me to some scientific community, or help me publish my telepathy power in a famous newspaper or magazine. I would reward you abundantly.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 01:48:34 [Permalink]
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Hi telepathy, and welcome to SFN!
I would suggest that you try here. The James Randi Educational Foundation does a lot of testing of paranormal claims, and if you can get by them, you will not only have substantiated yours, but will have 1 million dollars for your trouble. To my knowledge, they are the only organization that does legitimate tests of this sort. quote:
The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information about paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research into such claims.
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
To date, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests.
Wishing luck....
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 02:12:50 [Permalink]
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I have not enough money to go to Randi's local and challenge him. And he don't trust me. His aim is to prove there is no paranormal phenomena in the world, he won't truly to investigate my power unless my power is published.
I would like share the one-million-dollar price with the person who support me to challenge Randi. One-million-dollar price is nothing compared to the potential value of my power to the science. It might be a practical and economic way to use the signal send out from me body to detect how human brain works and how energy gose in human body.
I hope somebody here will help me, introduce me to some scientific community. |
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 02:21:41 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by telepathy
It is wast of time and money if you don't know what have happened or changed when a paranormal is happenning. Some changes might be very slowly or quickly, or tiny, most of the paranormal claims were happened transitorily. It might confuse you to make sure if it is a truly phenomena. To test such phenomena indeed worthy all the skepticisms, and you might got nothing from research such phenomena...
I'm not sure whether English is other than your primary language (your profile says you're from China, so I hope it's not too bold a guess), or you have some difficulty expressing yourself in written form. Regardless, I'd strongly recommend enlisting the help of someone you can converse with clearly to help you with translation and/or phrasing. It would be an enormous shame for evidence of such remarkable phenomena to be lost because of poor terminology, vocabulary or structure.
Perhaps you could send some clear, unambiguous telepathic message to some/all of us as a group, I'm sure most of us would be happy to keep our minds open and receptive to you message. Anyone receiving your message can then work with yourself and others here to help you devise a plan and truly scientific test of your powers. |
John's just this guy, you know. |
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 05:02:11 [Permalink]
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My English is poor indeed, but it not means my power is deceptious. It is a pity if the scientists lost such a chance to discover a unknown signal which could cause human have vision except the light for my poor English. Any skepticism is welcome, I'd like explain any misunderstanding until everyone fully know my meaning.
I said "people not far from me could perceive my thoughts", if you much too far from me, I'm afraid you can't perceive my thoughts. Surround me 100meters, more than a half people could perceive my thoughts, the further distance the fewer people could perceive my thoughts. The greatest distance people could perceive my thoughts I found is 50 kilometres. The further people might could perceive my thoughts, but I didn't test it.
When people perceive my thoughts, they could exactly see only one naked soul which speaks all the same words to my thoughts and do all the same movements to mine, although we can't see each other. The soul always stay near the people who can perceive my thought whether how long they are far from me. I believe such vision is caused by unknown signal sends out from my brain, and some people could get the signal. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 05:19:19 [Permalink]
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Is there not some agency in China interested in doing these tests?
And I seem to recall that the Russians were involved in some pretty intense tests in this area, some years back. They might be interested and are reasonably close by.
Don't worry about your english skills. You're not doing badly at all, -- we've seen much worse. They will improve with time and use. 
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 10:50:04 [Permalink]
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| You are wrong about Randi, he has no such goals. If this were true it would be the greatest discovery ever. Randi would stand to gain quite a bit. |
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Chippewa
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 14:30:41 [Permalink]
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It is a very long standing, historical custom and tradition in China to believe in ghosts. Belief in ghosts is an established cultural phenomenon in Chinese society from villages to the largest cities. Therefore it is much more likely that many people in China will interpret any unusual observed audio or visual phenomenon, or some novel coincidence from a bias or an acceptance of ghosts rather than from an acceptance of psychology or scientific explanations.
(Please note that I'm not saying what appears to be ghostly phenomenon doesn't occur, nor that a particular scientific explanation is always correct.)  |
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/27/2006 : 17:20:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Is there not some agency in China interested in doing these tests?
You are wrong about Randi, he has no such goals. If this were true it would be the greatest discovery ever. Randi would stand to gain quite a bit.
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Have you ever heard of Simanan before? He is one of Randi's friend in china, and he offer about 10-million yuan(about 1.2 million dollor) prize to the person who can prove a paranormal power or occult event. His website is www.simanan.com. Having heard of my power, Simanan deleted his website, now no one could visit the website, it is hard to meet Simanan. Randi, will you please help me ask Simanan if this is true? And dare he accept my challenge?
[/quote] It is a very long standing, historical custom and tradition in China to believe in ghosts. Belief in ghosts is an established cultural phenomenon in Chinese society from villages to the largest cities.[/quote]
Perhaps it is, but I'm sure the phenomena happens around me have no relation to the chinese cultural. People could see a naked soul, it is just a description to the phenomena, in fact it is not a truly soul but it is caused by unknown signal. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 03:28:08 [Permalink]
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A google on Simanan, or Sima Nan, turned up some interesting stuff, including this, this, and this.
It would seem that skepticism is alive and well in China, and there are any of several organizations that might be willing to run some double-blind tests. I am sure that if such abilities were simply proven to exist (such has yet to be established), their owner's fame and fortune would be made.
However, if I could do it, I would be very cautious as to exploiting them. I once, years ago, read a novel titled ZOTZ!, that made all too much sense.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 06:47:09 [Permalink]
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| Hi, filthy, will you please help me persuade Simanan have a short contact with me, then we discuss how can we get into the challenge step. I had tried my best to contact he, but it seems he is much too captation. I believe that he might will told you I'm a psychotic, or my claim is a fiction. He dare not truly get into the challenge step. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 07:11:00 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by telepathy
Hi, filthy, will you please help me persuade Simanan have a short contact with me, then we discuss how can we get into the challenge step. I had tried my best to contact he, but it seems he is much too captation. I believe that he might will told you I'm a psychotic, or my claim is a fiction. He dare not truly get into the challenge step.
Umm... I really don't know how to contact the gentleman. I've never heard of him until you mentioned him.
However, I will look around and see if I can find someone or some organization that might provide some assistance.
I'll get back sometime today or this evening on it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 09:15:19 [Permalink]
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Ok, got something:
Beijing: 010-269-61001, E-mail: simanan@public.bta.net.cn.
This is Sina Nan's office in Beijing. I assume there is some sort of a procedure you must go through to become a claimant. Can't help you much with that.
Heh, for what it's worth, you can use my name as a reference. Get it from my profile. Oughta be good for a  , anyway...
You must be very sure of your abilities to want this guy to test you. From what I've so-recently read, he is at least as hard-assed as Randi. Here's something on him from CSICOP, where I finally found his E-address. He is well worth checking out -- the sort of skeptic we all wish we were.
Edit: Randi and Sima Nan have an agreement in that anyone passing his tests (1,000,000 yaun prize) will automatically have passed Randi's preliminary examination and be well on the way to relieving him of his million dollars. I don't see it as very likely, but wouldn't it be grand as well as horrible if it happened? Science would go spastic and we skeptics would be reduced to debunking fish stories! 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 18:02:43 [Permalink]
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I had call the phone you provided(010-269-61001) in the last year , instead of Simanan, a lady answered me. She won't truly help me get into the challenge step. Having read you reply, I wrote a email to simanan@public.bta.net.cn, asked he how can I get in to the challenge step, and declared my claim. I'm waiting for his prompt response.
What is amazing, the email adress you provide can't be find in any Chinese website, and simanan's prize information can't be find in any Chinese website, his website www.simanan.com had deleted since I try my best to challenge him in the past few years. Why he dare not publish the prize information in China? |
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 19:50:21 [Permalink]
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This is the Simanan's reply:
"This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
simanan@public.bta.net.cn
Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 <simanan:public>, No such user."
It seems simanan dosen't use the email for a long time.
All the skepticisms here, is there anybody will help me? I would reward you abundantly. |
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telepathy
New Member
China
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 21:51:03 [Permalink]
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Hi, everyone here, will you please give me some advise how can I prove my claim in a controlled set?
I'd like consult with you if such step could prove my claim.
1. Select one person(receiver) who can perceive my thoughts, make sure he is blind to me but not far from me.
2. Investigator write an 8 digit random number or letter, and let me see it.
3. The receiver could immediately speak out the 8 digit random number or letter without any cheat.
Repeat such test until the investigator approvingly.
Do you think such test can be accepted by everyone?
Looking forward to your comment.
The receiver must be selected is because not everyone could perceive my thoguths although most people not far from me can, and I can't judge who can perceive my thoughts if they didn't tell me they have had perceived my thoughts. Such phenemena is neither controlled by people who can perceive my thoughts, nor controlled by me. It happens naturally, and people around me only could perceive my thoughts. |
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