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Dave W.
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 Posted - 06/03/2006 : 14:19:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Certainly there should be trillions missing links, in various stages, judging by the millions of species on the planet. Certainly there should be thousands of major transitional fossils, doing their natural selection in your terms.
There are.quote:
Not only that, simple creatures, should be making major changes as we speak. Not just within their own kind, but trans-species.
There are.quote:
For all the hyper boil, there should be something observable.
There are, and it's spelled "hyberbole."quote:
Not theories and suggestions, perceived as fact.
Theories are explanations, not guesses.quote:
I certainly do not have a guest pass to Heaven to sit with God and discuss these matters. Believing that a higher Entity, greater than ourselves, created us and allowed us to exist, makes more sense than a library creating and sustaining itself.
Your incredulity doesn't matter to what's real.quote:
No church is perfect, including my own. In fact I left my church, but still support them. It seems the NWO has invaded the hierarchy, and they preach the same things you would find in Masonic writings. Good, lots of good can and will come out of Church's. Until they are destroyed to pave the way for the New World Order.
The New World Order which is going to repeat the mistakes of Soviet communism and thus implode after a short while? Big deal. You've already shown that the movers and shakers of the NWO are incompetent morons. Why are you so terrified of that bunch of lamewads?quote:
prisonplanet.com goes into detail about it. He gets 5 million readers a week. Some of the information is probably hyper boil with disinformation, but none the less interesting the work he has done.
Yeah, anyone who extensively quotes Charlie Sheen as a 9/11 authority is interesting... to a psychologist. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2006 : 14:24:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Now JFK stood in the way of the New World Order, look what happened to him, he was the president, I am nothing. And will continue to stay nothing gleefully.
That's a new one. But hey-- I loved the NWO!
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2006 : 22:11:02 [Permalink]
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Verlch:
Sorry Kil I don't see any macro missing links, If one species is going to transform into another, over millions of years, as you suggest, there would be millions in fact trillions of fossils bearing the changes.
You will not accept transitionals at the order or family level because if you did you would have to conclude that you are wrong about evolution. So, even though there are lots of them, and really, only one would do, I would be just spitting into the wind with you to once again direct you to them…
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Verlch:
Although another prime example of your phantom physics, etc. Just like your miracle life giving atoms, to the whole world, your lightning quick transitional species, that happened at lighting speed, your complete disregard to the origins of the eggs, only maintain my questions of your sovereign theories.
About those lightning quick transitional species, please pay attention this time. Punctuated Equilibrium is a theory developed to explain why we don't have lots of transitionals at the species level. (That is not to say we don't have any.) That is the level that creationists accept! You know, something that links two canines like a coyote and a wolf would be an example of a transitional at the species level. Creationists call them “kinds.”
I don't know the origins of the egg. So I will not be the one to answer that question for you. And anyhow, you are not presenting it as an honest question. If I knew the answer, you would either disregard it or find some other imagined weakness (something we don't know yet or you are simply unwilling to accept) in evolutionary theory to poke at, all the while ignoring all of the questions that you have asked that have been answered. Worse, all the questions that you have asked that been answered only to have you to ask them again as though it never happened.
Heck, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts you bring up that lightning speed crap again, that happens to support something that you do accept, only because you think you are being clever while conveniently forgetting what you have been told about it.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
1383 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2006 : 16:20:38 [Permalink]
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Well boys. I think we are going to have to give up. verlch has found us out. Our secret is exposed. Our tactic of using evolution as a tool for subverting the masses failed. We might as well come clean. verlch, expect, in the next few days, the head of the New World Order to issue a public apology for any harm done and to seize activity immediately.
PS. The apology is, of course, just a ploy. We will regroup and devolop other tactics. In the end, WE SHALL RULE THE EARTH AS GODS!!!! |
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 01:12:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by verlch
Certainly there should be trillions missing links, in various stages, judging by the millions of species on the planet. Certainly there should be thousands of major transitional fossils, doing their natural selection in your terms.
There are.quote:
Not only that, simple creatures, should be making major changes as we speak. Not just within their own kind, but trans-species.
There are.quote:
For all the hyper boil, there should be something observable.
There are, and it's spelled "hyberbole."quote:
Not theories and suggestions, perceived as fact.
Theories are explanations, not guesses.quote:
I certainly do not have a guest pass to Heaven to sit with God and discuss these matters. Believing that a higher Entity, greater than ourselves, created us and allowed us to exist, makes more sense than a library creating and sustaining itself.
Your incredulity doesn't matter to what's real.quote:
No church is perfect, including my own. In fact I left my church, but still support them. It seems the NWO has invaded the hierarchy, and they preach the same things you would find in Masonic writings. Good, lots of good can and will come out of Church's. Until they are destroyed to pave the way for the New World Order.
The New World Order which is going to repeat the mistakes of Soviet communism and thus implode after a short while? Big deal. You've already shown that the movers and shakers of the NWO are incompetent morons. Why are you so terrified of that bunch of lamewads?quote:
prisonplanet.com goes into detail about it. He gets 5 million readers a week. Some of the information is probably hyper boil with disinformation, but none the less interesting the work he has done.
Yeah, anyone who extensively quotes Charlie Sheen as a 9/11 authority is interesting... to a psychologist.
Well Dave my friend, than you should be a very rich man, as the fella is still offering the 2,000,000 bucks to whoever can prove the theory of evolution. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 01:45:00 [Permalink]
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V, you're thinking of Kent Hovind, and his offer is for $250,000. Here's another, more complete link on this most outrageous of religious charlatans, including this one on his "challenge."
The long and short of it is that it is impossible to win it. In the first place, he personally screens all applicants, a conflict of interest if ever there was one. Then he sets standards that only God could meet, like: create a singularity in the lab.  Further, he won't disclose the names of the 'judges' for his challenge nor their qualifications, assuming either exist. He has been taken up on it numerous times but due to his bullshit, the tests were never done.
As you study the links, you will see -- this is all documented -- that he is a very poor reference for much of anything.
And I don't think he has the money to start with. The State of Florida has him dead to rights on tax and building violations.
Look, if you must reference these guys, at least research them first. It might save you some embarrassment.
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solidsquid
New Member
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 : 06:31:33 [Permalink]
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Well Dave my friend, than you should be a very rich man, as the fella is still offering the 2,000,000 bucks to whoever can prove the theory of evolution.
Hovind's $250,000 offer is a sham. Hovind has no clue what evolutionary theory is. His offer makes impossible requests of which most don't even relate to evolutionary theory - showing his fundamental lack of understanding on the issue. Hovind's an idiot. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26031 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2006 : 09:21:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Well Dave my friend, than you should be a very rich man, as the fella is still offering the 2,000,000 bucks to whoever can prove the theory of evolution.
Whoever "the fella" is. I'm betting the other guys here are correct, and you're just spewing falsehoods about Hovind's alleged "challenge." Do you really think we're all as ignorant as you are?
And, of course, I see you're no longer interested in talking about those wussy NWO people you're so terrified of. Not now that you've revealed their idiocy, in the form of their intention (according to you) of repeating the mistakes of Soviet communism. I'd backpedal away from such nonsense were I to have posted it, too. |
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