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Dave W.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 06/15/2006 : 14:01:59 [Permalink]
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Heh, and if they won't accept it, send it off to Dr. Dino and tell him it's magnificent specimen of the rare Piceosaurous mendicanti and it disproves evolution because it's mummified rather than fossilized. 
Betcha he'd be on that like slick on a grinnell!
You know, he has been burned before. That duffus will believe anything that supports what he knows to be true. Unfortunately for him, "Onyate Man" was an April Fools joke.
John Adolfi of Bibleland fell for it too. And he also likes to buy things…
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 14:12:20 [Permalink]
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Speaking of the "specimen" itself, I gotta say it's a creative work of art, and probably worth every penny of the $600. The very way the huge canine (?) jaws are interposed into a fishy body is hilarious and frightening at the same time. The forward-facing eyes are silly, but funny. The fins, dorsal and tail, look convincing, though no pectoral fins are visible.
I think this monstrosity's "growing" on me, and possibly on Filthy, too.
Could the jaws possibly be from a bear? Does anyone recognize the body as being a particular type of fish?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 19:05:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Speaking of the "specimen" itself, I gotta say it's a creative work of art, and probably worth every penny of the $600. The very way the huge canine (?) jaws are interposed into a fishy body is hilarious and frightening at the same time. The forward-facing eyes are silly, but funny. The fins, dorsal and tail, look convincing, though no pectoral fins are visible.
I think this monstrosity's "growing" on me, and possibly on Filthy, too.
Could the jaws possibly be from a bear? Does anyone recognize the body as being a particular type of fish?
Yes, yes it is. A pity that it wasn't represented as as mock-up.
Off the top of my head, I'd say that the fish body is probably from one of the groupers, a moderate to fairly large one, and the head is most likely fabricated from a hogs skull. Both are easily acquirable in FL. The skin on the head, I dunno. Could be from 'most anything, including another fish or possibly the same one if it is indeed a larger one. That's the way I would do it, and it looks like it uses only the posterior 1/4 to 1/3 of the fish. The dorsal spine is probably fashioned from bone, and tiny fin is a scrap of the original dorsal fin. Bone is also a possibility for the exaggerated canine teeth.
Medium-sized Red Groupers.
I think that if it were taken apart, Hastur forbid, the skull would show some saw and glue work done to fit it to the body. It is really too narrow for the snout, and thus the position of the eyes.
You guys with the younger eyes; did you see anything resembling gills or their slits?
It's not really all that good as these things go -- I knew a taxidermist who made alien heads out of human skull casts and deer hide, and they were realistic as hell.
But damn ain't it ugly?! I become ever more attracted to it each time I look at the wretched thing. 
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 19:25:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
You guys with the younger eyes; did you see anything resembling gills or their slits?
This photo might give the best opportunity to see such things (if they exist), but I don't see squat.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 23:38:26 [Permalink]
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Seen in proportion to someone's hand, it's not really all that large, is it?
No gills and no evidence of ventral or anal fins, either. The tail is ok for a grouper, but the I don't think that the pectoral fins are in their orginal position. And as can be seen, a single skin was used for the whole thing, so the size of the orginal fish is deceptive; quite a bit larger than the specimen, but still not huge.
Due to the actual size, a canine skull could have been used, but the rear teeth are wrong (and the front teeth are wrong for everything).
Here's an oldie but goodie, a jackalope:
You run across these for sale, now and again.
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