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Orwellingly Yurz
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USA
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 Posted - 07/20/2006 : 22:02:01
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Yo! Just THIS In
Schwarzenegger Gives $150M Stem Cell Loan 12:20 a.m. ET
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- A day after President Bush vetoed expanded federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday authorized a $150 million loan to fund California's stem cell institute, which has been stalled by lawsuits.
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A good idea Arnold. But we need federal funding for this research, too. It's clear you wish to distance yourself from G. War through whatever means available, so why are you using G. War's father...you know? G. Vision-Thing Bush to help you raise money for your re-election campaign?
I guess Arnold's opponent, Phil Angelides is going to have to call on Bill Clinton to do the same for him.
P.S. I saw the new documentrary, "Who Killed the Electric Car?" this evening. As "An Inconvenient Truth," this doc is right over the plate and in the pocket, as well.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2006 : 23:10:22 [Permalink]
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OY! wrote:quote:
It's clear you wish to distance yourself from G. War through whatever means available, so why are you using G. War's father...you know?
Because he's a good politician? |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2006 : 11:04:33 [Permalink]
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Hello, Marfknox:
A flippant answer to a rhetorical question, in many cases, can be entertaining. Slipping under the rhetoric, however: Arnold is about as good a politician as he is an actor. California was the sixth largest economy on the planet when he took Gray Davis' chair in Sacramento. The state is now the seventh largest economy.
Arnold also declared at the last National GOP Convention that he had been inspired to politics by Richard M. Nixon. (I could stop right here, but won't.)
In earlier times, he also had a penchant for groping females, several of whom, wishing not to be handled by Mr. Schwarzenegger's sandwich grabbers.
He also made, recently, a covert trip to the White House with his wife to dine with the Bushes in celebration of the Special Olympics founding by Eunice Shriver; a commendable achievement; so why did he want to keep it under the radar? (Another rhetorical question, marfknox.)
It may be that Arnold also discussed how he and G.Vision-Thing Bush would handle Der Groeppenfuhrer's moneyraising efforts in California.
I don't know about that, but it seems like a handy thing to do, if you're going to have the father of one of the worst presidents in the history of the U.S. provide campaign support. Plus, lest we forget: it was G. Vision-Thing Bush who put Clarence Thomas's name forth to be a Supreme Court Justice. Heeeellll--OOOOOH.
But the best reason to ask the rhetorical question, in question, is to bring forward the possibility that Arnold is just your basic run-of-the-mill politician, while being well out of the league of what it takes to be a statesman.
OY!
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"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde |
| Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 07/21/2006 11:12:27 |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/21/2006 : 11:48:45 [Permalink]
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| California spends about 10 times as much on SCR as the nation does, nothing new there. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2006 : 13:51:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
California spends about 10 times as much on SCR as the nation does, nothing new there.
Forgive me for being a dummy but "SCR"? Is that the Silicon Controlled
Rectifier? The South Coast Repertory theater? Siemens Corporate Research department? (I Googled and found those.)
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Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.
"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.) |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2006 : 14:14:40 [Permalink]
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| Yo: Hey, you're just a Chippewa off the old block; I can tell! YO! |
"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde |
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trogdor
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 07/22/2006 : 14:42:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Chippewa
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
California spends about 10 times as much on SCR as the nation does, nothing new there.
Forgive me for being a dummy but "SCR"? Is that the Silicon Controlled
Rectifier? The South Coast Repertory theater? Siemens Corporate Research department? (I Googled and found those.)
sorry I've been gone a while, but I've been out of the country.
it's stem cell research. |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 07/23/2006 : 13:51:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Orwellingly Yurz
Hello, Marfknox:
A flippant answer to a rhetorical question, in many cases, can be entertaining. Slipping under the rhetoric, however: Arnold is about as good a politician as he is an actor. California was the sixth largest economy on the planet when he took Gray Davis' chair in Sacramento. The state is now the seventh largest economy.
I don't know whether Schwarzenegger is a good politician or not. However, becoming sixth or seventh in the economic arms race in itself doesn't say much about policies. Economics is much too fluctuating and much too dependent on external factors to make a good judgement on policy, based purely on that.
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Arnold also declared at the last National GOP Convention that he had been inspired to politics by Richard M. Nixon. (I could stop right here, but won't.)
How was he inspired? Did he tell more about this. Nixon has done bad things and good things, and he could even have been inspired by both of them simultaneously.
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In earlier times, he also had a penchant for groping females, several of whom, wishing not to be handled by Mr. Schwarzenegger's sandwich grabbers.
Politicians make mistakes, even the good ones. All the good ones I know of had a way of 'looking around' regarding the female department.
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He also made, recently, a covert trip to the White House with his wife to dine with the Bushes in celebration of the Special Olympics founding by Eunice Shriver; a commendable achievement; so why did he want to keep it under the radar? (Another rhetorical question, marfknox.)
Because he doesn't want to be connected to Bush too much, which might just be a wise political move?
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It may be that Arnold also discussed how he and G.Vision-Thing Bush would handle Der Groeppenfuhrer's moneyraising efforts in California.
I don't know about that, but it seems like a handy thing to do, if you're going to have the father of one of the worst presidents in the history of the U.S. provide campaign support. Plus, lest we forget: it was G. Vision-Thing Bush who put Clarence Thomas's name forth to be a Supreme Court Justice. Heeeellll--OOOOOH.
Relevance of this rant? He'll need funds if he wants to run again, so he'll need to speak things through with the important people of his party. Bush is one of those, whether he agrees with all his policies or not. Also, if he wants to convince Bush of his own views, he'll need to go and talk to him, no?
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But the best reason to ask the rhetorical question, in question, is to bring forward the possibility that Arnold is just your basic run-of-the-mill politician, while being well out of the league of what it takes to be a statesman.
OY!
He may well be, I don't know. But what you are pointing out above definitely doesn't show much in this regard. |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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