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woolytoad
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Dr. Mabuse
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 Posted - 09/05/2006 : 19:55:51 [Permalink]
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It's an excellent article.
Like the author says, though... A discovery may have one of these warning signs without being bogus. The most prominent recent example I can think of right away is #6 the loner, the mathematician who worked out the sollution for Fermat's Last Theorem. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/05/2006 : 20:45:12 [Permalink]
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I like the article, too. It seems to be based on the Crank Index. I intend someday to write a science fiction story in which a loner, uneducated researcher makes a huge scientific breakthrough, and then, out of a sense of humor, proceeds deliberately to set off every one of those bogus science alarms.
It could happen.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/05/2006 : 20:46:26 [Permalink]
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Neatly-combed hair. Everyone knows that real scientists always have messy hair.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/05/2006 : 21:19:07 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert
Neatly-combed hair. Everyone knows that real scientists always have messy hair.
A dead giveaway.
Also, a neat but obviously fake toupee. I recall seeing this guy on TV who had hunted living dinosaurs in Africa. I could hardly hear his comments, I was staring so hard at his rug. I wondered if he actually wore that thing when exploring in West Africa. To me, it was more fascinating than a possible dinosaur in Africa.
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Ricky
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woolytoad
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 02:50:42 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
[quote]Another mathematician who violated #6 was a Russian, Perelman, who recently may have proved the Poincare conjector.
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman
Earlier last month he was offered the Fields Medal.
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upriver
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 07:56:23 [Permalink]
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It has been pretty well established that low energy nuclear reactions happen by scientists at Mitsubishi, the Naval Reasearch lab and many universities around the world.
B. Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann did discover something and they are being villified for not going through the proper channels. And its interesting how they are still being debunked by those that have no real knowledge of the field.
For those that think that lenr/"cold fusion" has been debunked, your deluding yourself with skepticism.
Here are some papers. Look at the authors and labs.
http://www.lenr-canr.org/LibFrame1.html
There is no doubt that they are getting neutrons from low temperature reactions. Some of the ones I find interesting are loading Ti with deuterium and heating it and cooling it and getting neutrons.
Here is an experiment you can do yourself.
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/cfr/ppclkrs/index.htm
Here is a picture of my fusion project.
http://www.strangeeye.net/universe/pictures/fusionsetup.jpg
I'm sure everyone has the clear photos of UFO's.
http://www.billymeier.com/photos.htm
Never been proven fakes.
As far as evidence for human psi abilities(human interaction with matter on a quantum level) check out "What the Bleep II" or PEAR.
The Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) program
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
Bob Parks has some interesting things to say but this is not one of them. |
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pleco
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 08:09:06 [Permalink]
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| I don't think citing Billy Meier helps you out at all. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 10:12:23 [Permalink]
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| What really doesn't help upriver's entire position is the idea that "Never been proven fakes" actually means something other than that he's trying to shift the burden of proof. His "look at the authors and labs" is just an argument from authority. "An experiment you can do yourself" is simply wrong, because as far as I can tell, they never describe the calculation of the COP. |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 09/06/2006 : 10:50:46 [Permalink]
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| Sorry upriver, your links prove jack and shite. As it happens the dustmite who lives on my suit coat which destroyed and then created the Newniverse, has never been proven fake. Also he can vanish from existance at will and hates being tested. |
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Ricky
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ktesibios
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 22:59:06 [Permalink]
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Parks' article reminded me of Irving Langmuir's "symptoms of pathological science", which are
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Symptoms of Pathological Science:
1 The maximum effect that is observed is produced by a causative agent of barely detectable intensity, and the magnitude of the effect is substantially independent of the intensity of the cause.
2 The effect is of a magnitude that remains close to the limit of detectability; or, many measurements are necessary because of the very low statistical significance of the results.
3 Claims of great accuracy.
4 Fantastic theories contrary to experience.
5 Criticisms are met by ad hoc excuses thought up on the spur of the moment.
6 Ratio of supporters to critics rises up to somewhere near 50% and then falls gradually to oblivion.
(source)
Note the similarity of Parks' #3 to Langmuir's #1 & 2, and Parks' #7 to Langmuir's #4.
I'd propose that the two lists be combined into a sort of Woo Quotient test. |
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